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Group Select Survey Results

2020.09.17 21:44 Pjd7510 Group Select Survey Results

Top 3 answers get +3, +2. and +1 balls, bottom 3 answers get -3, -2, -1.
LETS GET STARTED
Question 1: Favorite Baseball Player and Why
Dylan
Growing up every day with Chipper and Andruw Jones in the Braves lineup for the first like 15-20 years of my life was special, Chipper in particular. Acuna is catching up fast, though.
I asked for one player though, not your entire Barves lifestory
Bnavis
Jake Arrieta, his rise really mirrored the cubs, and that 2015 season was incredible.
Arrieta can pound a bag of dicks for being absolute shit
Ruairi
Barry Bonds. He was the greatest hitter of all-time and it isn't even up for discussion. He was a hall of famer before the "alleged" steroid use and became the greatest player of all-time after. The man would get one pitch in the strike zone to hit every night and he would hit it for a home run everytime. No batter has ever been feared the way Barry was feared, not even close. Everyone can say they hate Barry Bonds and don't respect him or whatever crap they want to spew out, but the truth is, when he came up to bat, literally everyone stopped what they were doing to see what he would do, and then when he'd hit a massive home run, everyone would be in awe of his insane abilities.
Barry Bonds is lowkey one of my favorite players, this is valid reasoning.
Polelover
David Ortiz. Self-explanatory.
Fuck the Red Sox
Bgro
Jason Kendall bc he was a leadoff catcher and gritty as hell. He refused to ever sit out a game even though he played such a demanding position.
Kendall was one of my favorite Pirates to watch, glad to see someone else is a big Kendall fan
Jiggy
matt kemp, restored my love of the game. in his prime he was incredible and he seemed to be having a blast playing. oh and i'm hyper vain and he dated rhianna while being the best player in the sport and i think that's cool as fuck.
Kemp should have won MVP over Braun. Fuck Ryan Braun
Rose
Frank Thomas? Frank Thomas is just a mythical figure of childhood for me. The 2006 A's were an extremely formative team for my baseball fandom and Frank Thomas was probably the first time a player I was already aware of outside of the A's became relevant to the A's, and having him play for Oakland felt like being blessed by a god. Objectively or statistically there are more dominant hitters than Frank Thomas in history but in my mind he's the most impeccable hitter of all time.
I forgot that Big Hurt was an A. Thomas was a fun player to watch
Cory
Rickey Henderson. Unbelievable talent with a rare skillset, combined with a cool "hometown hero" story, long career, endless mythology and great stories.
Yankees Legend Rickey Henderson
Wharble
Vladimir Guerrero for teaching me that strike zones are merely suggestions
It's a shame his son took that lesson the opposite way
Iama
Mariano Rivera, just a great feeling when he would come into the game and lock it down. ice cold blood in the veins, and a great team player and ambassador for the game.
There will never be another as good as Mo when it comes to locking down a game
+3 Ruairi, +2 Rose, +1 Jiggy
-3 Pole, -2 Dylan, -1 Bnavis
Question 2: Favorite High School Story
Dylan
We used to pay "high stakes" Call of Duty at my friend tommy's basement. We played gun game on black ops. if you lost you got fingered in your butthole
Kinky
Wharble
that time in high school I went to Edinburgh to perform a musical for some Scots
Did you play the bag pipes?
Pole
9th grade a bunch of us gathered in the school library the first night of winter break and binged the lord of the rings movies. Extended editions, of course.
Thats a good way to spend a night
Iama
Four Loko Night, many shenanigans were gotten up to and the night culminated in ejecting flaming pumpkins off a bridge into a gorge
And this is how states burn to the ground
Bnavis
me and a couple guys got onto the very top roof of the palmer house hilton, managed to avoid a bunch of security. got good pictures
Sounds like a blast
Jiggy
probably driving to a city of 30k people in the middle of buttfuck nowhere, getting piss drunk and doing Too Much Molly for one person. we did all this shit and it's like 1:30, walk to a dominos and wait outside for our shit. all of a sudden this dude comes up to us and asks us if we were the ones that catcalled his gf (we were not) to which one of my buddies said "nah but i wish i would've." dude gets in his truck and chases us down streets of moose jaw saskatchewan for thirty minutes as we run for our lives while smoking grape flavored cigarillos. we get separated, i lose my phone, sleep on a merry-go-round in a park in october (so like it's 25 degrees at best) and walk to a starbucks to find a stranger that'll let me use their laptop to contact my friends bc i don't know their numbers, forgot my facebook password, forgot my gmail password to reset it, end up on this middle aged man's 15 year old dell laptop for forty minutes trying to figure out how to contact my friends while still fucked up, eventually a dude i partied with happened to walk past and i ran outside and got him to call dan, dan picks me up and we drive back home and eat pizza hut
Holy shit
Ruairi
Oh boy strap in for this one. So it's freshman year of college. I live in the dorms. I'm single and have next to no experience with girls/parties. It's Halloweekend (the weekend of Halloween so very many parties at SDSU). Unfortunately, I was not in a frat so I was not allowed in any frat parties, so I had to party in the dorm. Anyway. My roommate went to his gf football game (she was a cheerleader for a community college 30 minutes away) so I was just hanging out in my room with the door open to talk with anyone from my floor that wanted to hang. This girl from the floor below me (that I had just met a few days ago and showed off my baseball knowledge to in the study room) walks by my room and stops. She says hi and comes in and I'm talking with her. She has a bottle of cranberry juice and vodka and offers me some. Obviously, I accept. She says she has a full bottle of vodka in on her floor and she'll bring it up to party with me. A really attractive girl wants to hangout with me on Halloween while she is dressed up and wants to get me drunk? Hell yea! So she goes down to her floor and I wait for her to come back. But then about 20 minutes have gone by and she has not come back, leaving me to believe she had bailed :(. So I go across the hall to my friends room to drink and play super smash bros. About an hour or two goes by and I've had some shots just vibin on the floor. A few of the girls who went out to a party had come back and I was hanging out with them. Then the girl from the floor below came back with friends and was trashed. She was in our study lounge puking in the trash so I was in there taking care of her and helping her out. I was just rubbing her back and getting her water while holding her hair. There was a weird dude on our floor who was into her also trying to help but it was super weird and uncomfortable with him there because well as I said he was weird and creepy. After an hour, one of my other friends said Chase and Diego were letting people in their room (now these kids didn't talk much to anyone, except Chase. Me and him were boys). So I went over to their room to see what was poppin' because this was a moment of a lifetime. Chase was a little drunk but Diego was smashed and so was his gf. Total in the room it was me, Chase, Diego, his gf, a dude name Kayvon, and two other girls, Leah and Katie. I was just hanging out talking with everyone and then the three girls were talking about french kissing. Leah hadn't ever frenched so the other girls wanted to show her how. So they passed each other around like a bong just frenching it up. I was dumbfounded. This is what college is??? I'd seen videos but I didn't think they were real. Diego was getting super into his gf making out with these two other girls, kinda hyping them up. Once they had stopped frenching, Katie and Leah left the room. Diego started to get the spins and tried to lay down on his bed. Then he vomited on himself. Me, already experienced with vomit in the evening, tried to help him out and get him up and to the bathroom or at least the trashcan. I did what I could but then his gf was acting all crazy and yelling at me to get out of the room, so I did. I returned to the cute drunk girl on the couch, as I told her I would be gone for just a few minutes (it was really about 20-30). She was super excited to see me again. At that point, she asked me to watch the World Series with her, as the Mets and Royals were going to play Game 5 (I believe) on the Sunday (the next day). I told her of course I would and that I'd be watching in that very study lounge. After a little while longer, I told her she needed to go to bed so I walked her down to her room while the weird creepy dude followed us. I wasn't going to let him walk her to her room because frankly I didn't trust the dude. Got her to her room, said good night, and that was the end of that. I went back to my room and told my roommate and his gf about the eventful night I had. Jumping back to earlier in the story, cute girl said she had returned to my room about 30 minutes later but she couldn't get the vodka from her floor because some dudes had taken it. I had left my room at that point so she ended up going out to the party instead since I wasn't there. I did end up dating that girl for a decent amount of time, but that's for a different survey.
Ruairi remains the undisputed king of storytelling
Rose
was homeschooled for most of high school and didn't go to college. i'm not gonna get balls but at least be gentle with taking balls away
Rose you are a treasure, no ball loss for you
Cory
Frosh year. My roommates and I had a couple dorm floor mates who either only have weekday meal plans, or no meal plan at all. So we started casually stealing them some non-perishable goods to last them over the weekend. Through natural progression, this slowly turned into us creating an entire klepto organization that eventually fed most of our dorm house. We had a few tricks. One was bringing sports bags in with us - they would make you check backpacks at the door, but since sports bags might have expensive equipment, they let you take them in. So we'd just stuff them full of gallon bags of cereal, bagels, etc. Our dining hall had a patio area, where at night, you could see in from the outside, but not vice versa. We would load up our plates with one type of food, grab a gallon or two of milk, a tray of cookies, etc., saunter out to the patio, bag/pack everything up, and then toss it over the railing to our Outside Man down below, who would then take it back. At the end of the year, the dining hall had a program where you could return anything you "walked off accidentally" with with no repercussions, so we went to collect and tally any cups/bowls/plates/silverware we'd liberated, and found ourselves with two full boxes of stuff. Fearing *some* sort of repercussions from the sheer volume of stuff, we waited until the DH was closed one night, climbed over the railing, and left the boxes on a patio table.
This is amazing
Bgro
I jumped out the window of the classroom once just to prove to a friend how oblivious our teacher was. I then walked in through the front door, greeted said oblivious teacher, and sat back down at my desk. She was very confused.
Classic
+3 Ruairi, +2 Cory, +1 Jiggy
-3 Dylan, -2 Iama, -1 Bnavis
Question 3: Favorite Vacation You Took
Wharble
does the scotland one kinda count as a vacation? if so, that one, if not, fuck idk I've only ever been to Vegas or Mexico on vacations so imma go with one of the 14 times I went to Mexico
I would love to go to Mexico
Pole
Winter 2010, we went to a resort in Turks & Caicos. Joe Girardi was there too. He and my mom are best friends now.
Pics or it didnt happen
Iama
lake house in new hampshire with all my cousins, just waterskiing, swimming, and hanging out by the water every day for a week
That sounds fantastic
Bnavis
italy, rome's cool as fuck
Another high effort answer from Bnavis.
Jiggy
when my sister lived in vancouver i flew there and then we drove from vancouver to tijuana together and camped on beaches and shit
I've always wanted to camp out on a beach, that sounds dope
Ruairi
Well, since my brother and I played baseball year round from elementary school through high school, we didn't take many/any vacations. So I will have to say the only real vacation I've taken is my trip to Texas a few weeks ago. It was amazing getting to see my best friend with our other best friend. Shot real guns for the first time. Went to the beach a couple of times and the water was so warm, it was amazing. Had Texas BBQ and it was to die for. It was super cool being in a somewhat small town since I've grown up in San Diego/Temecula for my whole life and haven't lived in a farm-like town. It was a super cool experience and I would easily risk getting coronavirus to do it again.
Thats pretty dope, small towns are always fun to go to
Rose
my favorite 'vacation' ever was actually recent. i dogsit for my sister sometimes when she goes somewhere and get to spend a week or so getting paid to relax at her apartment in san francisco with her dog and drinking and eating good food. it's nice because it's not touristy, i'm not staying at a hotel or anything, it's more like dipping my toes into living in a big city for a week or two and then getting to return to my normal life afterwards. my 'favorite vacation' was when i was there for over a week last year just chilling with no responsibilities other than taking care of her dog
The best vacations are the ones where you do absolutely nothing
Cory
New Zealand, September 2019. Gorgeous land all-around, really good (and cheap) beer, fun time exploring with friends, Lord of the Rings shit everywhere, good beer, very nice populace.
Thats dope, New Zealand is on my must visit list
Dylan
All my friends and I rented a house in Hatteras in the Outer Banks a few years ago. Massive house, right on the water, perfect water. Took a lot of acid, listened to Miles Davis' Bitches Brew while the mosquitoes ate my body apart while the sun went down.
Thats pretty dope
Bgro
Backpacking around Europe for a month with my buddies when I was 17. We visited 8 countries, sleeping in hostels and trains.
That is the dream, glad you got to live it
+3 Ruairi, +2 Rose, +1 Bgro
-3 Bnavis, -2 Pole, -1 Wharble
Question 4: You are now Commissioner of MLB, what changes do you make? (For time constraints I am going to post the top 3 answer and bottom 3 answers as many of these are similar)
Iama
negotiate things with the unions to make sure i can do the following fire rob manfred from any position he may hold (also joe west, cb bucknor, angel hernandez, and laz diaz) fix the minor league wage system so players make a living wage; also adjust the prearb/arb/fa system for better fairness abolish the dh and/or maintain the al/nl system abolish bad extra inning rules and/or robot umps, if they have been implemented bring back the bullpen car more doubleheaders bring back disco demolition night
Love all of these except getting rid of the DH
Bnavis
very slowly turn baseball into blurnsball from futurama
No
Jiggy
  1. no interleague 2. no divisions, just leagues 3. 12 games against each league opponent, 168 game schedule (until expansion, see 9; after expansion this will become 165 games, 15 against each league opponent) 4. al dh, no dh in nl 5. top 3 make playoffs in each league, 1 gets a bye. 2v3 in a best of 7, winner vs 1 in a best of 9, best of 11 world series (i realize it's not fun viewing but it gets the best result) 6. fines for anyone who tries to institute unwritten rules or whatever the fuck, promote the shit out of guys like tatis/tim anderson that make the game fun 7. no baserunner on 2nd rule 8. legalize steroids 9. expand to 38 teams, play one season. bottom 7 in each league go down to make a 24 team mlb and a 14 team mlb2, following this, use the english promotion/relegation system but with 4 from each league now. so effectively, bottom 4 in the al automatically go down, top 3 from al-mlb2 automatically come up and then a playoff of 4v7 and 3v6 from mlb2's al (best of 3 round 1, best of 5 round 2) to determine the fourth team that rejoins the majors. 10. create a more fun environment at the game. music throughout the game, including during play, also every team has a small waterpark at the ballpark 11. encourage players to have cool cleats why is trevor bauer the only one taking advantage of this 12. go back to pre-2017 balls
Jiggy gets it
Rose
make the wild card a 3 game series played in 2 days (games 1 and 2 as a double header,) expand to 32 teams (portland and montreal/charlotte/nashville,) universal DH (i don't mind both leagues having different rules but universal DH is probably the pandemic induced rule that makes the most sense to keep,) execute Alex Bregman on live TV, don't kill the minor leagues, don't do any other dumb bullshit, sit back and watch the money stack
Yes absolutely bring back the Expos, fuck Ass Bergman
Wharble
pay the minor leaguers, institute a salary floor, institute something resembling a RFA system instead of arb, ban Rob Manfred from baseball idk I'm tired
Go back to bed bud
Pole
Overhaul the free agency system to disincentivize service time manipulation. Add a salary floor for teams.
Ok
+3 Jiggy, +2 Rose, +1 Iama
-3 Bnavis, -2 Pole, -1 Wharble
Question 5: You have been signed by the WWE! Congratulations! What is your In Ring Name, Gimmick, and Finisher
Wharble
Thiccums, whatever vince gives me, and either the spear or the clothesline from hell
Show some creativity and own your own gimmick. Jobber status for you
Pole
I am The Ogre. I come out in full Shrek cosplay. My finisher is the GET OUT OF MY SWAMP.
:corynod:
Iama
Wrath-Hog Bounty Hunter Bearhug Life Force Squeezer
So do you hunt other wrestlers? Are you a hunter for an authority figure? As of now you are a Jobber
Bnavis
just give me minus points for this
SAY NO MORE, -3 BALLS
Jiggy
Chicken Bryan Kane's little brother, thus making me the Undertaker's grandson The Carraba's Crusher - honestly it'd just be ember moon's eclipse bc it's the coolest shit
Only issue, Kane is already Undertakers brother so you would also be Undertakers brother. That said maybe we can bring Taker out of retirement for a one off with you
Ruairi
Ring Name: The Notorious Ruairious. Gimmick: I am a Northern Irishman who uses a wicked head butt to stun and knock out opponents. I have swagger, but am very humble. I throw off my opponents by complimenting their bodies rather than trash talking them. Finisher: I get the opponent on the ground and do a jig over them, as my kicks knock them unconscious.
This is a dope gimmick, would likely book you to face Sheamus for 3 months before going for the WWE Title.
Rose
Ring name is Anne Phibian, my finisher is a Frog Splash and my gimmick is that i am extremely into frogs and i brutally beat down opponents and share Frog Facts with the audience on the mic while they are incapacitated
Instant top heel in the Women's division. Would book you to face Charlotte Flair at Wrestlemania for the Women's Title.
Cory
The Mortician (Cory *Graves*). My gimmick would be crawling my up through the bottom of the ring to start each match. We would then have to wait for the mat to be repaired before beginning the match. Finisher: The Scalpel - I run back and forth between the ropes a few times, gaining momentum, eventually bouncing off, going into a horizontal pencil dive motion, and kicking my opponent square in the chest.
I can see some good feuds between you and The Fiend Bray Wyatt. Could be a good wrestlemania match.
Dylan
Bitch, I'm Big Pepsi I'm sponsored by Pepsi Co. to deliver the sweet taste of Pepsi products to the world, BY FORCE The Baja Blaster - I yeet a full cup of MTN DEW Baja Blast (tm) into my opponent's eyes before hitting them with a shoryuken from street fighter
I dig it. Will book you as a main eventer before having you job to Roman Reigns and then banish you to the midcard forever
Bgro
My ring name is "El Ratoncito Miguel" which translates to "The Little Rat, Miguel". My gimmick is that I always pretend I'm not actually there to fight, I'm just lost and looking for directions. I insist way beyond a humorous amount of time that I'm really not a wrestler and you must have me mistaken and how do you get to Union Street. Then, when everyone's going home and the lights are turned off, that's when I attack. My finisher is called Open-Face Slap, where I run to one side of the ring and then charge full speed at you and open face slap you.
Instant Top Chicken Shit Heel. You can win the WWE Title on a fluke before losing it at Mania to someone like Daniel Bryan
+3 Bgro, +2 Ruairi, +1 Rose
-3 Bnavis, -2 Wharble, -1 Iama
Question 6: Here have a ball
+1 to everyone who said thank you
No balls to everyone who said ok
No one told me to go fuck myself so no one loses a ball
Question 7: One of these has to go what do you get rid of.
+1 Balls to everyone for correctly choosing a seafood based item
Question 8: Penguins are...
+1 Ball to everyone who said Badass
No Balls for those who said "they aight"
No one loses a ball
Question 9: Society has completely collapsed, what do you do to survive.
Wharble
bold of you to assume I'd make it out of a societal collapse
Wonderful spirit Wharble
Pole
Hoard some precious resource so I can trade it for other things that I need.
Smart
Iama
the world is my oyster
But what are you doing to survive
Bnavis
kill myself, i'm not a fool. i wouldn't survive a day in the wild
Just excellent effort from Bnavis
Jiggy
honestly i wish i had a nice plan for you but i know i wouldn't make it. just hangout with my gf for as long as possible and do enough mdma to forget about our impending doom
Understandable
Ruairi
I have a co-worker who has a full survival shelter with many guns. I go to him to survive.
Good move
Rose
i don't believe in my ability to survive alone in an apocalyptic scenario so i would determine if i'm reasonably close to a costco. if i think i'm close enough i believe a society of about 200-300 people could survive in a barricaded costco for several months at least without issue, and i will try to get a footing there. if i can't make it to something like that i will seek out the strongest most prepared looking person in my neighborhood and pray they show mercy.
Good to have a plan
Cory
Hoard gasoline and water (a la The Immortan Joe from Mad Max: Fury Road). If that doesn't work out, I would travel from settlement to settlement, bard-style, recanting happenings from neighboring settlements and regaling folks with song.
That man making the best of a bad situation
Dylan
Go to the basement of the newspaper office downtown. Literally nobody ever goes there, and there's no easy way down there without a pass. Also has a showeshittespace. Also has a secret tunnel to the building across the street if I need to bail.
Not bad
Bgro
Now that society has collapsed, I work as a software developer to survive.
In a post-apocalyptic society I dont think we will need software
+3 Cory, +2 Rose, +1 Dylan
-3 Bnavis, -2 Wharble, -1 Iama

Question 10: This question comes from my wife: What should I make for dinner upon the completion of survey results
Everyone gets a ball for leaving some awesome recipes.
Question 11: What is your happiest memory?
Wharble
that's an incredibly personal question that I will not answer because it will make me emotional!
Ok
Pole
that one time i homered in little league
Was it a moon shot?
Iama
watching the 09 world series win with my dad
That was an amazing year
Bnavis
being held by someone who loves me dearly
True
Jiggy
honestly last new years me and gf and a few friends went to a rave and got drunk/did a fuckton of ecstasy and danced our asses off then went to this little hidden rooftop in downtown saskatoon that i stashed a few bottles of tequila and some cigarettes on and danced and smoke and drank up there and yelled at strangers on the street until like 4 then got an uber home, passed out, and then made a fuckpile of waffles and watched horror movies in the basement all new years day it was so fucking fun
Thats fucking awesome
Ruairi
Oh man this is a tough one. There are two that stand out in my mind, but I'm not sure which one to go with. I will tell another story about the cute girl I mentioned earlier in this survey. So this was a few months later (4 or 5). We started dating shortly after that Halloween night for the record. We spent pretty much everyday together since we lived just a floor apart and quickly became best friends. Anyway, it was a few months later and we were in her room. It was a Friday and I didn't have class until 1 on Fridays. We were making out on her bed and at one point she stopped and just looked at me. She started crying and I was confused so I asked her what was wrong. Through a cracked voice she says "I love you." It was the first time anyone had ever told me they loved me in that way and I had been thinking about telling her that I felt the same way leading up to this day but was too scared to. When she said it, I was then able to say it, which surprised her because I wasn't a very open person back then. It's one of the best feelings to have someone you love tell you that they love you back. And even though we aren't together anymore, the memory is still a good one for me, because it reminds me that I can be loved and I can feel love for someone, even in times when those things don't seem possible.
This brought a tear to my eye my dude
Rose
it feels slightly underwhelming to call it my happiest memory because it didn't last in the end but i think the most undeniably happy thing i can think of is entering my first real romantic relationship as a teenager. a lot of that time of my life i was fighting with depression and a genuine and significant romantic relationship was a realization that i could be deserving of love from other people and that i could connect and relate to another person in ways i was afraid i wasn't capable of.
This fucking hit me hard because I've been there
Cory
Camping with my brother and parents. Usually our trips involve some amount of shouting and fighting, even the really good ones. But this trip, we just spent three wonderful days in the wilderness, enjoying nature, eating good campfire foods, laughing and playing board games. Some catchphrases were spawned while playing those games that my family still quotes to this day.
That's awesome, I'd give anything to have that kind of time with my family again
Dylan
I went to a concert with a friend of mine that had just left the company we had worked for. She was in a relationship but she asked me to go with her because she had an extra ticket. It was a great time, really fun, great vibes. Didn't realize at the time that would be the person I'd be living with about 3-4 years later. Don't know if it's my happiest memory but it makes me really happy, know what I mean?
Thats awesome dude
Bgro
Either various moments on my solo bike trip across the country where I just felt total tranquility and satisfaction near the end of my trip OR this one time when my first nephew was like one and I was his favorite person and I took him out for a walk. He was distracted and I walked a little ahead of him and when he turned and noticed me a little further away, we made eye contact, he grinned a wide smile and then ran to me arms wide open for a hug. Kids do that kind of stuff all the time to people they know and trust but I've never felt such pure unadulterated love as I have from that kid in that moment. There is no artifice or conditionality in that sort of love. It felt good to be the cause of that someone else's sheer joy and seeing his face light up when he saw me, thats a memory that always brings me happiness.
:blobheart:
No one loses a ball for this round
+3 Rose, +2 Bgro, +1 Ruairi

Ok lets tally up the results......
TIED FOR FIRST WITH 16 BALLS: ROSE AND RUAIRI
SECOND WITH 9 BALLS: CORY
TIED FOR 3RD WITH 8 BALLS: BGRO AND JIGGY
4TH: IAMA 0 BALLS
5TH: DYALAN -1 BALLS
6TH: POLE AND WHARBLE -3 BALLS
AND YOUR BIGGEST LOSER IN DEAD LAST WITH -11 BALLS BNAVIS!!!
Lottery will be done and posted with out first round. Thank you for your time you wonderful people
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2020.08.28 01:37 Sanity0004 My journey through The Challenge for the first time. (Part 6: Battle of the Seasons. Easily my longest post so far. Oof)

Probably a lot of errors and screw ups in this long winded rant/live watch. I'm sorry it's this long. I might need a damn break after this season. Boy, this took some wind out of my sails. This was rough.
Battle of the seasons:
Ok, I've heard I'm in for a string of really good seasons. Let's go!
1:
A whole lot of people I don't recognize at all. (I'm totally fine with this.)
Sarah looking different! I like it!
Danny and Melinda on the same season? Why weren't they on Exes?
I have limited exposure to Chet, but I like him!
Danny looks so different in his confessionals.
Knight being a dick right off the bat. Damn.
Oh hell, this Pennsatucky looking chick.
Actually like seeing Jonna and Jasmine again.
I thought I recognized Trishelle and Alton, hey I watched that season!
These fresh off the Real World rookies(Saint Thomas?) seem awkward.
So far, I'm really liking the looks of this cast. A lot of newer people, the old school vets are low in numbers. I'm liking this a lot.
"Best challenge house ever." Nah man, Fresh Meat 2's house was awesome.
This Frank dude does NOT give off good vibes right off the bat.
I'm all for the Sarah/Chet team up.
Wes shenanigans off the bat.
Oh shit, another team? No clue who it could be.
Oh shit. I am soooo for this. Cara, Big Easy, Brandon and Camilla. I'm good with all four! Please Brandon, don't get screwed again! I swear to god I could already see some Wes shenanigans of getting Easy/Cara to put in Brandon/Camilla or some shit. Don't you do it!
I feel like Austin is screwed with Melinda and Lacey. Melinda was never all that good in these challenges and Lacey doesn't look competitive at all.
Calling Jonna and Jasmine weak? They were small but seemed strong and wirey as hell.
Why is Cara Maria's name on her shirt like added on? lol Was she a last minute substitute or something? Everyone elses name is white letters on the shirt, but hers looks like it's a white printout strip thrown on the front of the shirt.
Big Easy making a great first impression... Good job bud!
God damn Eric. God Damn dude. Losing weight ain't shit for this show if you aren't also getting stronger and working on endurance.
As a newer viewer not knowing a lot of these people, this is a terrible first comp for judging people and their performance for first impressions. A lot of times its just names and seasons and there's no real way to tell anyone apart most of the time.
Why is this season treating just falling in the water so much worse? Just seems like a big escelation in the dramatization of danger. Only the first episode and it's had two falls in the water cut to commercial for drama. Exes alone had like 7 or 8 falls worse than any of these that were barely even noted on? lol
Did this season suddenly have a big editing change? So far I hate the editing on this season. So much added dramitization and commercial cuts. This show never felt that dramatized before this. Yes there were dramatic cuts to commercials and everything, but saying who the power team was? Fresh Meat getting out of the car? This is feeling too much like modern overdramatization of reality tv.
Ugh, Wes instantly on his shit. I like people owning their shit, but he's just a little too much sanctimonious about it.
Shocked they had no time with the Fresh Meat team with reactions after the challenge. So much more focus on the rookies and newbies.
First go off the bat gonna be all vets of the challenge. Nice.
Wanting Austin gone, but then picking physical against Fresh Meat? These new peeps don't seem the brightest.
Wes seems so slimmed down more than the last couple seasons. Wonder if he took the finals of Rivals to heart and been more focused on endurance and cardio?
I am so confused by this Frank and Zach guy...like....sexually. There's some strong homoerotic vibes going on right now.
I said it once, I'll say it again and again. Angry drunk is a damn requirement for this show.
Jonna, did you not watch the Exes reunion?! Ok she's at least going to call the dude before it goes on and on and farther and farther.
"My hearts pounding because I'm so excited you called." This is the ultimate of unconfortableness. I love the way this phone call is starting off haha I LOVE IT.
Cara Maria what the shit? All of a sudden wanting to get cold feet?
I still don't understand why Cara's shirt is different than everyone elses.
Oh shit, well this is the best possible case for Big E, damn. Tackle the dude and keep moving. My faith in Austin just plummeted. Lacey has no chance and Wes has a less than normal chance.
Well that was instant.
I actually wish these guy and girl elim's worked indipendantly. Why should a team lose two, could just lose the girl or guy seperately. Have both compete, but I'd more like the chance of two teams potentially losing one each rather than one team losing 2.
Eric just fucking tore through Wes like it was fucking nothing. I knew Eric had this, but shit that was nuts.
Wes trying to be smart and go under. I think Eric got it. Wes swung his arm out too much, he lagged behind.
Danny and Melinda just on their own battle of the exes now.
2:
The combo of Knight and Jemmye makes that season of Real World seem like the absolute most off brand casting I've seen on MTV lmao
New crew coming in with alliances. Good to see people aren't just coming in doing whatever vets or older cast say or say is normal.
A giant pit of olive oil....ewe
I look at that red line and wonder if someone is about get their back broken.
Oh ok, I can see the appeal of this comp immediately.
I like the schoolyard pick of this type of comp.
Punches and drop kicks and neck grabs all in the first guy/guy face off? Damn these newbies came in heated.
"Too much sensitivity in these newbie." Ok, I'm loving this post-win Camilla.
Jonna, man, just instantly stepping out.
Newbies coming in actually thinking about these games smartly. It's actually nice seeing this from people other than Johnny/Kenny/Evan and Wes.
Man they just completely close out multiple teams from even trying. Damn.
I'm glad the vets aren't just taking it sitting down and instantly strategizing themselves.
Hahaha, I love that this became a thinking mans challenge throwing competition. The people playing around and goofing off is just all around great.
That Big Easy has to sit here and talk to Cara and Camilla to actually play politics. Seriously guys, you two specifically have scated on being on the vets side so damn much to be talking shit about having to play politics. Brandon and Big Easy deserve better.
I'm a fan of these rookies coming in and wanting too say fuck how this game has been played in the past. Yes, I don't really know them, and we don't have any vested interest in any of them, but this is how EVERY SINGLE PERSON should be coming in to this game. Fuck how it was played in the past, play it how you want to play it. The best possible outcome of this is multiple people coming in like this and having a good tug and pull for control throughout the season. It's how you get evolutions in strategy.
Instant talk of love and connections bug the hell out of me. Jonna and her "I've never felt this way with a guy" come on chick, it's been a couple days.
Oh god, Melinda getting in this fight is hilarious. It almost got the girls into a fight lmao
I am not here for this New Orleans cast. Knight seems like a Vinny mixed with Johnny wannabe or something.
Cara Maria seems extra whiny this season. I haven't seen her not whining yet.
Brandon, I like you, but don't just come in and say "This is my fourth challenge, I'm tired of eliminations." Dude, did you come in expecting that vet shit too? Come on man.
I have to assume that they have to give the producers who they want sent in before they get to see the comps right? I mean, why wouldn't you just wait til you see it and then decide?
I don't like this Frank guy. He may be the head dude in charge with alliances and stuff, but he's not a great personality. He's not a fun evil, or fun bad guy to root for. He's just kind of annoying?
Is Camilla going to be tall enough for this?
On these type of competitions, why wouldn't you just sit back and wait until the last 30 seconds and then just send everything back?
Glad to see Fresh Meat stick around. No real surprise to see Danny Melinda go out so fast.
I feel like Austin being gone was like the Legacy members being gone. Yeah there is still vets left, but the rest left aren't really as well established.
3:
Big Easy getting some female interest? Hell yeah!
Damn Trishelle was gone for two episodes and comes blasting in with "Sarah is manipulative!"
I can't take this Knight dude.
I like this challenge a lot. Fresh Meat is definitely screwed, but I like it.
Yup, there goes Easy. What the hell is with this dude? He was never a bad guy in these regular challenges. He was always decent but never the worst, never this damn bad.
This competition really doesn't seem hard. It's more about concentration than anything else. Other than Eric the only thing people struggled on was not paying attention to placing the hook correctly.
Does each team have their own van/bus? Seems extravigant...
Damn Trishelle, you seem to be way more manipulative right now than Sarah is? You're the one running around telling everyone Sarah is manipulating Alton, but what you're doing is manipulating every team against one person.
I understand the politics of wanting to stick with the alliance, but you're being crazy about it.
Trishelle lmao "I'm a poker player, don't fuck with me." If I hear I'm a poker player one more damn time!
Damn Camilla, chill chick. Brandon trying to talk you up and get you out of your shitty mood and you just start screaming?
"Go fuck yourself!" "I will, I do it every single day!" I love it! hahaha
Cut to them talking about the argument. Huuuuge pet peeve of mine, discussing how the argument progresses and takes place and not focusing at all on why the argument happened. "You said some things in there that hurt and I don't know where they come from." What about the fact that you blew up because the guy was trying to talk you up?!
Thank you Chet! Trishelle, you're off your rocker. Why does Trishelle have this huge hate for Sarah? I feel like there is some context outside of the game or something? Why does she come in saying she's the most manipulative person in the game? What?
Cara has a point. If something gets hard and you say you want to quit, who's to say you won't do the same another time? That being said Cara just seems so damn whiney this season.
Trishelle pissed when Sarah volunteers herself lmao
Chet and Sarah vs Brandon and Cara? In this type of challenge? I think Fresh Meat's about to lose...
Spending so much time pulling the rope seems like a waste of time. You're never going to get that damn far you only have 10 minutes.
I don't know who I want to stay more. I kind of want Cara gone, but I don't want Brandon gone. Definitely want to keep Sarah/Chet around.
Not really surprised by the outcome.
Oh fuck off Cara. "The joke is Camilla is stuck with Big Easy. You seemed to so obviously come in to this season expecting to scate by on the vets take care of vets game style and obviously never expected to go in to any elimination.
I'd say Brandon got screwed again by a disfunctional team. Cara and Big easy is a tough saddle to bare.
Get that girl big easy!
4:
Devyn really? Dating guys collecting social security? really?
This fucking Knight guy. God dammit.
Trying to mentally breaking people? Really reafirming my Johnny take...
The new orleans cast as a whole looks like they were side castmembers on MTV's Buckwild and they threw them on Real World after Gandee died and the show was cancelled. That's my headcannon.
Eric talking shit, but obviously struggling holding the basket before anything is put in it...
Damn dude, going hard on Brooklyn.
Chet lol "Don' apologize, it doesn't mean shit."
Damn Easy, fucking keep going. The basket is just filling up.
Frank seems like a bitch.
I am absolutely loving this "Alliance" breaking the fuck apart already. lmao They're all seeing a pecking order and little spites and shit's gonna blow. Love it.
LOVE IT. Keep fighting!
I have a feeling this season is about to get real damn heated.
"Team meeting" this should go swell
"We're in an alliance with you....but not really we want your team in."
Sending in Fresh Meat again? Pussed out already?
"Why is Brooklyn on the bottom every time?"
Safe to say all these newbies got the JEK style of strategy. Clearly have a pecking order, but lets not acknowledge the pecking order. That's just messed up. Why would you think there's an pecking order? How dare you! Now you're just making yourself a target!
Camilla, you won a season by getting to the end with alliances. What are you talking about? Vets so clearly came in expecting it to be a vets to the end automatic run.
Be careful Camilla, that New Orleans cast look like they would actually start stabbing people. Especially the Pennsatucky looking chick.
After a comp? Everyone with their own bus. After partying and drinking? Cram all these drunk fucks in a bus!
Oh boy, you guys are underestimating Camilla if you think she would get her ass kicked. I'd put that money on Camilla.
Everyone just fucking throwing 'bows and shit. Body check after body check. I love this alliance.
How Nany kept her top on the entire time I have no idea.
Knight telling Trishelle that he's the best manipulator in the house? Better watch out. Lose an alliance mate for simply suggesting that it isn't Sarah.
Ughhh god, I can't take more of this Knight dude. He obviously took extensive notes on JEK's tips on playing the game.
Nany you're bitching to Fresh Meat about not losing and not going into elimination? You dense bitch!
IDK Devyn, you said you date people who collect social security. I feel like Easy should be a little uneasy on the dodginess. Not that it really matters, but the dodginess is weird.
Fucking Knight coming to the rescue lmao
Oh fuck off with this dumb suspense!
5:
Big E, what the fuck. I understand it's hard, but you don't fucking quit.
Fuck off Big E. You lost all my respect dude. It's like you get yelled at to keep trying and you get ptsd for Gauntlet or some shit and you just give up. Fuck off. Talking all kinds of shit about Camilla talking down to E, but fuck that she was telling him to try and that he has to think positively. She didn't talk shit till his dumb ass quit.
I now understand why people look back to gauntlet 3 far worse. At the time I just saw it as the dude biting on more than he can chew, but he stuck with it until he literally couldn't. Now he's just a quitter. What in the hell.
Nice bit of trivia for Sarah: she lives trivia.
I think I hate Trishelle. I think it's a couple episodes in, enough to say that I really dislike Trishelle.
I just got done watching Exes and I couldn't tell you what Island they go to at the end.
"If looks could kill, I'd be so dead." TJ is killing me this episode.
I love these trivia comps.
It comes down to Chet in a spelling bee lol
San Diego and Trishelle are basically my shit list. New Orleans would be on there too, but with them it's more of a disgust thing.
This Pennsatucky chick just gave me Pennsatucky vibes before because of looks, but her flipping out and being a control freak continues to give me Pennsatucky vibes.
What is New Orleans doing? lmao they're slowly tryin to walk the things to the wall lol Goodbye I guess?
Wait...what? Why is there more than one round? There was only one round the first time... Only one 5 minute round the first time and 3 90 second rounds this time around? It makes sense, but why did they only now think of this or make this change?
Good for Brooklyn.
6:
Fucking Frank. This dude is a cuntnugget.
This cast, or these newer players seem to take this game way more personal. Like the older school players seem to be able to openly realize it's a game and they're able to mostly put stuff away and have fun and chill when it isn't game related. This cast just seems to outright hate everything and will not put stuff aside for even a second.
Frank is just so damn smug, but he somehow still comes off as insecure? Like he has to try to prove himself any time another guy even thinks of talking to him or gets attention.
Why is Nany crying just entering the challenge?
The Horse mask lol
I think I'm on Team Brooklyn and Team Cancun at this point. And Teacm fuck San Diego and fuck Team Vegas. Saint Thomas barely even exists at this point.
Ear pull seems like the weirdest pointless crapshoot of a "competition"
Team Buckwild vs Vegas in a jousting competition lol
I guess I'm hoping for Vegas as they might make an attempt at San Diego since they know they comtemplated going after them the previous episode.
"I'm stronger!" "It's a fish!" "What does that have to do with this?" "It's a fifteen pound fish!" I love this argument.
She dropped the fish haha
I don't know if Laura deserves much respect really. Has she even had a single second of screen time before this?
I actually feel like Knight of anyone would come in here to fuck shit up with this power team.
Alton wanting his own team thrown in lmao
He's opening talking about wanting to leave, but he's talking to the two girls who would literally have to go too. What an idiot.
This season is going to start to annoy the hell out of me. Alton you dumb bitch.
Yeah, just not let Alton go in.
Frank, shut up. He wasn't allowed to do it, you idiot.
That the other teams just sat there and thought the rest of the team would just let Alton lose for the team is hilarious. Now all of them are wanting to jump in on Alton. What is with these baby clowns? I feel like they shouldn't really care at this point because they didn't like Trey and Laura from Saint Thomas anyways. So even if they lose what does it matter to them?
These guys are absolute bitches lol
Seeing how exhausting the first rope dome comp went, I'm surprised these teams didn't focus more on alternating vertically over and over again. The pulling the rope was the hardest part and pulling it through the top would be the most exhausting. Basically go over the top, do a bottom not, go back over the top and repeat over and over again. It wouldn't even need to be complicated, just exhausting. It's the strategy comp for a reason.
Frank and Zach just descheveled lol Not even wanting to look.
Besides maybe Trey, I feel like this whole Saint Thomas cast is completely forgettable. I would be surprised to see any of them again.
"What they're doing to your team is what I did to people in high school." Nice self own? Calling yourself a bully? lol
7:
I spoke too soon, maybe they are able to just put everything aside for some fun.
There's been so little of Jonna and Jasime this season. Kind of surprising.
Glad to see some competitions that more resemble something close to a final challenge.
"I don't know how I got this reputation for being good at puzzles." "Because you brag about it." love Chet.
All this Cancun screen time makes me think they're for sure going in to the arena. They've been pretty absent.
Sarah with the helpful tips!
"Prove you're more than just high heels!" "I'm not!" this episode is hilarious so far.
Now you just know to drop Devyn soon.
Fuck Zach and Frank.
I'm pro Sam.
"I'm just encouraging you, STOP WHINING!" Hahahahaha Funniest episode of The Challenge to this point.
How the hell do you get through the whole thing and just now realize there are extra pieces?
Brooklyn took that! Nice.
Cancun being a damn team.
Frank and Zach are fucking disgusting. "Yoou don't like me telling you to speed up! FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKING FATASS!!!"
Frank and Zach are just spoiled children turned bullies.
I think this season has the most cast I actively hate.
Robb trying not to call TJ a bitch because he thought he said they lost. lmao
What the fuck was that? Frank and Zach act like twin brothers that will just say anything and do anything to back each other up.
Frank "Zach trying to make me look like the bad guy." hahahahaha does this mother fucker not hear himself? At all? Was it you yelling "You selfish piece of shit!" or "You fat bitch!" Frank, Zach doesn't have to try...
I love the infighting. I looooooooooooooove seeing Frank cry.
I don't know if it's likely, but Frank leaving right now would blow this game wide the hell open.
Come on. Seeing a note for someone else and reading it and laughing? Come on... It's not a prank, its malicious.
Just a good reminder I hate Pennsatucky and the BuckWild team.
Ha, suddenly Frank doesn't want to go in! Frank saying flat out that Sam won't be able to do it. These complete babies.
Have I expressed how much I fucking love this episode yet? I'm giddy.
I don't even think it will take Frank going home to break this game open. I think this team and alliance is fucked.
"If we were so hellbent on our word, I'd be going in with Ashley, but we're not so I'm not going in." What?! What technicality bullshit are you trying finagle your dumb ass out of right now you scared little bitch? lol
I hate Frank.
"Don't be upset, I'm here for you." Frank fuuuuuuck off with your dumbass back and forth bullshit. "Sam, you suck and you're going to lose. But hey, I'm here for you!" lmao This is Sociopath level manipulation.
Glad CJ could take this "Note prank" a lot more lighthearted than I'd be able to.
I wasn't aware they could only be unsure on one of the people going in to the arena? I thought for sure on a previous one the guys were pretty set and the girls weren't and both were picked? Like they didn't even give a chance for the guys to step up after the girls went in the power team just picked both. Then I'm even more confused by them telling Brooklyn they have total control, but then only having them pick the guy. WHAT ARE THE RULES!!!!
CJ being so close with San Diego bothers me. CJ himself seems cool, but I can't trust someone that would be close with these guys.
Maybe this comp is a lot harder than it looks lol
Sam pulling it out during this is great.
I find it curious that they haven't shown Frank or Ashley cheering on their team at all...
"Hey Frank! Fuck you!" I love to see it.
Glad to see Pennsatucky and Shain Gandee be eliminated.
"They haven't been able to win one challenge without me." Frank....THEY JUST FUCKING DID!!!!! You dumb bitch!
8:
"I just need to get them to the end, so I can lead it." Oh the ego Frank.
Trishelle reminding me I don't like her. Calling Frank a pawn and that he got played? What?! Lol, how? What are you even talking about?
I love whatever this gameshow schtick is.
"Guys, you can't make me look dumb." Jesus fucking christ Frank. This is how you start a challenge? "Hmm, now you're quiet." You toddler.
Ok, I think Trishelle was feeding the fire on her pawn talk. She's sitting back loving the infighting.
These numbers on this food is ridiculous. More than 10 baklava a peice in 4 minutes? That seems insane.
I don't even know what this second thing is.
Devyn and Sarah is just devouring these things. This one I actually think they'll get.
The instant reaction to JD almost puking was great. "JD, don't you dare! You hold that shit down!"
Chilis, now this number should be high as hell. I'm surprised how low they are. Sure they're hot but they're easy to eat. Put like 4 of those shits in your mouth at a time.
Vegas, good job making the team lose by having to eat the food. lol
Brooklyn, the power team again!
"And testicles make semen. I don't want neither anywhere near my mouth." Zach, you liar.
Glad to see San Diego going in again.
I love love love every time I see Frank losing it. You mean egotistical bitch that instantly cracks under the tiniest bit of scrutiny from someone he can't just bully in to silence or isn't ganged up on.
Sending in Cancun when you know it's going to be physical seems real dumb...
CJ not knowing how damn feisty and strong Jasmine is in these elims.
Sending Zach and Sam in again. Frank is straight bitches. At least Ashley wanted to go in.
Wow, everyone shitting on Jonna. God damn people. Trishelle calling her trash lol Am I the only one who remembers how tenacious and strong Jasmine was in these kind of elims? This just seems like the smarter choice.
Eh, she still lost. Darn.
Yessssssss, Zach getting his ass trounced.
Annnnnd he won. Damn.
Don't you fucking go back to being buddy buddy with Frank. Fuck that noise.
9:
Is this a longer season? I feel like we're not preparing for the final at this point?
Ugh, San Diego doing team motivation bullshit is just gross. Stop it. You disgust me.
It's weird seeing TJ without a hat so much this season.
I'm really liking the variety of challenges this season.
Yeah, no mention of the final. Must have more episodes to go than I thought.(I'm not looking out of stubbornness)
Robb, literally not being able to get the first bouie.
I kind of have sympathy for Trishelle panicking with salt water. I have the same issue. It's a weird sensitivity to salt water. I am the biggest fan of water and swimming, have never had issues in my life, but any time I get in to saltwater for the first time in a while, my mind goes through this panic the first time I taste saltwater every single time. It's like you can't breathe and you can't help it. Body just goes in instant panic and can't control it. As much as I dislike Trishelle, I completely get this specific issue. It's a completely mental side effect that you really can't help at all. There's literally nothing you can do about it but wait it out. Eventually your mind just adjusts to it.
Alton, don't talk shit. You literally threw your team in the arena and wanted to quit while taking out a team mate like two weeks ago.
"I am a southern man, and you know I don't talk to women like that." lol Dustin
Zach shut up. "We wanted to send ourselves because we feel pretty comfortable."
I feel like these people are not thinking about the comp types at all when they're making their choices. Vegas is all tall and you want them out so you throw them in endurance?
Frank isn't even being talked to, but he HAS to jump in with "Don't you point your finger at me." as she waives her hand meaning everyone lol Frank you whiny bitch that just wants an excuse to scream at people.
Chaos ensues because Frank had to make it two on one and had to jump in to an argument that he knew he had numbers on. Has Frank had any altercation where he is the only person involved? Other than with his own friends? Talks a lot of shit, but I haven't seen him say shit unless he's got people around him.
I'm not sure I even know who this Derrick guy is...
The Challenge and it's tradition of angry drunk casting.
"Nany, I was drunk and emotional, give me a break." Dude you got yourself fucking in this argument when you had numbers.
Wait....Dustin did gay porn? lol That's actually surprising.
You can tell Frank is the most insecure baby bully. You jump in to an argument and as soon as you can't just railroad the argument you just go as personal and as dirty as possible. Frank is a punk bitch. Plain and simple.
If I was in Dustin's position, I'd punch Frank and it'd be worth it.
"Those are just porn muscles." God I fucking hate this dude.
I really want to know how many cast members actually get in fights outside of the house.
Afraid of Alton wanting to go home all over again. "It's not fair people underestimating me." Dude, you've talked about going home multiple times!
Trishelle just gonna let the other team decide lol That's not the way to come out ahead in this fight. You suck just as much.
Wow Trishelle....wow. Good on you Nany, dumb, but good on you.
Trishelle instantly calling anyone that disagrees her a psycho.
Alton possibly not trying? Say it ain't so!
It more looks like Nany isn't trying on this third round. Every time it shows her it looks like she's ignoring ones that go past her and basically walking to the balls.
Trishelle, you trash.
Do we really need to see Frank's reaction to the results? Really?
Dustin: "Remember this."
Trishelle is garbage, but that doesn't stop you from competing dude.
10:
"It's hard to get him to see the big picture. He's very child like." Bitch you lost a challenge, refused to go in because you were afraid of losing, then basically forced your teammate to go in instead and they went home. I know it's not all your fault, but you definitely caused this.
"I can already feel this money in my pocket."-Chet, this is never a good sign.
Zach lol "I'm pissed now. I'm going too take it out on Chet and JD, I don't care."
Alright Zach and Frank, time to lock penises and become one.
Brooklyn guys falling. Ya'll suck.
Wow, guys being DQ'd what in the hell guys?
Sarah and Devyn straight look pissed. lol Chet not exactly backing JD up when he says "Believe me, I was in the tube with him." but then backing him up lol
It'd be dumb to NOT put in Brooklyn at this point.
This cast seems like everything is so personal. Wanting to put in Marie for pushing Derek and Sam being in the way. Not wanting Cancun in solely because of Jonna.
Marie, I'm not speaking is not the way to approach this.
Calling her a brat because you just don't want to send in your girl lol
These people act like it was some vicious and malicious act to push Sam. She pushed Derek. Sam was just behind him and got Derek pushed in to her. It's a dumb thing to get mad about.
Just seems like a dumb idea throwing Saint Thomas in. If the final isn't next you have an advantage by having a full team in these team comps.
Geesh, this feels like the first time they've gone out all season.
"When did you grow a dick anyways?" Frank, taking absolutely zero seconds to go personal lol
You're only just now seeing Franks true colors? Nah, you just weren't on the receiving end of it. You just chose to be fine with it before.
"Well I'll kill your man, how about that?" "OH yeah?! I'll kill your girl, how about that?" What and the fuck am I watching? lol
Wait, are Robb and Marie actually dating or something? I always saw them kiss, but it seemed like a weird brothesister kiss. I always thought it was weird and awkward.
Marie: "Your whole team knows you're a weirdo." She says to the team who all openly accepts being the outcasts and weirdos lmao
"You're just riding Jonna's coattails." That may be the best dig I've heard the entire season.
Angry drunks, angry drunks everywhere.
"Trishelle is like the newly divorced mom that's trying to party with her kids." Damn this episode is getting in some good digs.
It took you getting close to them too realize they're similar?
It's not focusing on Vegas much and just looking in the background it looks like Dustin is staying in the water constantly.
I think Trishelle is colorblind or something lol How she's having this much trouble is kind of astounding. Dustin seems to be killing it for her to not be doing better.
No Trishelle, Dustin is making it look good. You are trash and are completely blowing it.
Good god, I'd have been so pissed if I was Dustin and Trishelle lost that for you. She was having to literally check every single one of the cards. Good god.
"The house is probably happy. Don't have to deal with two drunk asses t-rex'ing around the house." What?
Marie your only contribution to the show was the 3 times you got mad.
Ok, so one more challenge then final. So 2 episodes to go? Maybe 3?
Ok, I was against the location changes lately, but I'm liking them going to afrika. That could be a really interesting intense final.
11:
"We're in Africa, we came here to poach!" oof
That atv looks tiny with the angle it's showing it.
"You don't even have to get your hair wet!" I like Brooklyn
I feel like Dustin is puking after every challenge.
Sarah going slow, but nice to see her whole team rally around her afterward.
Zach looks like he literally can't swim.
Vegas to the finale is kind of disappointing.
Honestly as much as I hate it you probably throw in Brooklyn. You either want a team out or you possibly weaken Brooklyn in some way. Who won a previous challenge that was very similar to a final.
San Diego is a fine choice. You want to weaken them to possibly weaken them too.
Frank can not STAND being talked aboout. I fucking love it. Oh my god...you talked about how he didn't fly far in the challenge that he had no control over? Time to get personal!
Why did Cancun stop like they were done?
I don't know if it's editing or if they gassed out but it looked like Cancun got near the end and just stood there barely doing anything.
"I don't know if anyone can finish this final." But I will fucking ridicule you to no end if you fucking quit!!!!! So if you can't finish just fucking die!!!!! signed with love, TJ
Thermal underwear? Guess a two night final. Ugh
"Could there be very little running involved?" Devyn, have you seen this show?
Frank Praying just pisses me off more. Fuck off dude.
Why is it trying to make this skydive prep sound creepy? It's got like high tone horror movie music over it.
12
Jumping off a plane and then just starting to jog like normal would feel so anticlimactic lol not sure why but just seems like a weird shift.
Frank and Zach are instantly bitching. FUCK
"You're not gonna talk to me? You're not going to talk to your teammate?" Sure, put the onus on Sam, Frank. It definitely has nothing to do with you verbally abusing her the entire time and just coming back to yell at her more...
"I'd say I'm the smartest person here." Stay humble Frank.
"I'd hate to hand over 250k to a bunch of bullies." I always knew I liked Sarah! There was just that one bad season of her working with Kenny.
Trishelle just spent time in a helicopter and somehow looks more tired now.
Oh my god. These people are terrible. Sam falls and they scream "You did that on your own!" and pick her up and tell her she's acting like a 3 year old. I can't tell you how much I hate these fucking people. I'd rather have 3 Wes's screaming "You dumb bitch" for hours than how these dumb fucks act.
Chet getting in on the shit talking of his own team...
I swear if Frank and Zach win this I will riot.
If Frank and Zach get lost in a dune slide or something I won't be sad. I promise, I won't bat an eye.
This fucking shit ass team. They literally can't stop bitching even when she's laying down.
"I'm going to strangle her!"
At least Brooklyn isn't fucking screaming and yelling at Devyn like she's a crying child on the ground. Jesus.
Sarah killing it at checkpoints.
Just perpetual sad face. I regret everything.
Trash finale. I'm just going to imagine the season is 11 episodes and the footage for 12 got lost. My head cannon is they wait until San Diego gets to the finish and TJ says they're DQ'd for abuse and incessant berating of a teammate.
Ugh, do I even want to watch the Reunion? Unless someone literally beats the shit out of Frank on stage I don't think I'll be happy.
Reunion:
I want to know how much Frank bitched for San Diego being in the back.
Why the fuck are the reunions mostly clip shows?!
Frank looking stunned that she's still mad. Money should make up for it right? Frank is trying soo hard to act cheerful and happy. Fuck off dude.
"It wasn't hard for me, I got to walk thanks to a teammate." Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck the fuck off. Frank trying to come off like he is mad at what happened is going to send me over the edge.
I am actually advocating for full on assault at this point.
Sam/Frank for Rivals 2?
We just not going to address Frank at all on this reunion? Fucking hell?
Sure let's continue to bag on Sam. Sure lets fucking do that.
"Guys she's really not the victim here." JESUS CHIST
It was verbal abuse. You're disgusting to even pretend it was anything different.
Wow the reunion is making it fucking worse. Lets just get the whole cast to rag on Sam. Jesus. And we're just not going to talk about Frank at all other than the push? And don't even pretend you were pushing everyone up a hill in that clip. That push wasn't on a damn hill and the other two were well ahead. There was a damn shot that showed above it at the same time.
The team of Brooklyn is getting more shit on than Frank and Zach. This is gross.
I stopped watching. I don't even like a majority of these people and don't care.
I think I need a break after this season.
I don't even know what to put for a final thoughts type of thing. Just a big giant fucking OOF. This was gross.
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2020.07.06 17:54 sonofabutch The All-I Team!

Recently I put together an All-Q Team -- the 25 best of the 51 players in MLB history who have last names starting with Q. (And that followed my post as to which last name has the most players (M, 2,040) and which has the least (X, 0). Q has the second-fewest, with 51.)
The Q team's performance would be... shall we say... Questionable. Basically it's starting pitchers Jack Quinn and Jose Quintana, relievers Dan Quisenberry and Paul Quantrill, and one hitter -- slugger Carlos Quentin. Everyone else had career bWAR in the single digits, or negative.
The letter with the next fewest players is I, with 59. I thought it would be Interesting to look at the All-I Team. Would it be as Inadequate as the All-Q team, or would a pool of just eight more names be a big Improvement?
Of the 59 players, six are still active, according to baseball-reference.com; five played in MLB in 2019. (The active player who didn't appear in MLB last year was pitcher Gregory Infante, who had been signed by the Orioles but released before the season started; earlier this year they again invited him to spring training, but he's not on the 60-man roster.)
One odd thing I noticed is a fair number of these I-guys would become minor league managers, just as it seemed a disproportionate number of Q'ers died relatively young. I guess baseball teams think if your last name starts with I, you must be Intelligent enough to be a manager!
Batters: The I's have much more Impressive hitters than the Q's. The leading hitter on the Q-team is OF Carlos Quentin, with 10.5 bWAR; he'd rank 11th on the I-team! The Q-team's starting nine had just 27.1 career bWAR; the I-team's lineup has 152.3!
C Chris Iannetta - 15.0 bWAR, .230/.345/.406 (98 OPS+), 3,563 AB (2006-2019). "Sponge" consistently posts an OBP a hundred points higher than his batting average -- even in 2010, when he hit .197 but still got on base nearly 32% of the time. Casual fans look at a walk as something negative the pitcher did, not something positive the batter did -- a mistake by the pitcher rather than an accomplishment by the batter. But it's absolutely a skill and Iannetta proves it every year. Pitchers don't want to walk a guy with a career .230 BA, yet he gets walks.
1B Frank Isbell - 14.6 bWAR, .250/.289/.326 (89 OPS+), 4,219 AB (1898-1909). Nicknames in the Deadball Era were notoriously cruel. Hazen Cuyler was a stutterer who had trouble with his own last name; he's immortalized as Kiki Cuyler, mocking the way he pronounced it. William Hoy, who was deaf, was known as "Dummy." Charles Briody's round face and growing waistline earned him the nickname "Fatty." As for Frank, who was sensitive about losing his hair early in his 20s, his teammates dubbed him "The Bald Eagle." Frank's career slash-line of .250/.289/.326 isn't impressive, but he did have a tremendous year for the 1905 Chicago White Sox (.296/.335/.440, a 149 OPS+). Isbell played most of his games at first base, but he played all over the field -- literally, as he's one of the few men in MLB history to have multiple games at every position. He even pitched in 17 games, posting a 3.46 ERA in 88.1 innings!
2B Omar Infante - 16.9 bWAR, .271/.308/.387 (87 OPS+), 5,271 AB (2002-2016). Omar is the first of many players born in Venezuela; are last names starting with I more common there? Infante was primarily a utility man for the first half of his career, playing second, third, short, and all three outfield positions; it wasn't until 2010, at the age of 28, the Braves gave him 500+ plate appearances for just the second time in his career. He responded with his best season, hitting .321/.359/.416 and making his one and only All-Star appearance. He would spend the rest of his career as a starting second baseman. A tragic note: Omar's older brother, Asdrubal Infante, was a promising pitching prospect with the Tigers -- he posted a 1.09 ERA with 51 K in 33 IP in rookie ball in 1999 -- but was murdered that same year in a robbery in Venezuela. He was just 17 years old.
3B Brandon Inge - 19.2 bWAR, .233/.301/.384 (82 OPS+), 5,014 AB (2001-2013). Inge was a shortstop and pitcher at Virginia Commonwealth University, but the Tigers drafted him in the 2nd round in 1998 with the intention of converting him to a catcher. After three seasons in the bigs, he was moved to third base, where both his offense and his defense greatly improved. (Inge would hit .199/.260/.330 in 1,271 PA as a catcher, and .243/.315/.402 in 4,102 PA as a third baseman!) In 2008, Inge went on the disabled list when he strained a muscle trying to position a pillow under the head of his sleeping son.
SS Arthur Irwin - 15.2 bWAR, .241/.299/.305 (81 OPS+), 3,871 AB (1880-1894). The Q-Team had a lot of Quinns -- 13 of the 51 Q's in MLB history, or 25%, have the last name Quinn. For the I's, it's Irwin. Eight of the 59 I's are Irwins, or 13.5%. The first in both alphabetical order and by most bWAR is Arthur Irwin, a 19th century infielder who was later a manager, umpire, scout, and part-owner of a minor league team. At the age of 63, Irwin -- who during his playing days was known by the nicknames Doc, Foxy, and Sandy -- took ill and was hospitalized. His son came to visit him... and was surprised to discover another son visiting him as well. It turned out Irwin had married two women and had two families, one in New York and another in Boston. Soon after, Irwin boarded a ship and was never seen again. It was ruled a suicide, but who knows... maybe he settled down with a third family!
LF Raúl Ibañez - 20.9 bWAR, .272/.335/.465 (111 OPS+), 7,471 AB (1996-2014). Ibañez, the son of Cuban refugees, hit .272/.347/.572 and set career highs in OPS and HR (34) in his lone All-Star season... at the age of 37! Over his 19-year career, Ibañez had an OPS+ over 100 twelve times. His career bWAR was dinged by his defense -- 28.7 oWAR, but -17.3 dWAR. CF Ender Inciarte - 18.9 bWAR, .286/.338/.398 (95 OPS+), 2,922 AB (2014-2019). A 2017 All-Star and three-time Gold Glove award winner, Inciarte was signed out of Venezuela as a 18-year-old amateur by the Diamondbacks in 2008, but he would spend the next six years in the minors; the Phillies claimed him via the Rule V draft prior to the 2013 season, but had to return him after just one game (in which he didn't play) when they claimed Ezequiel Carrera off waivers. The D'Backs finally gave Inciarte a chance in 2014, and he would hit .292 for them over the next two seasons. Arizona then traded him to the Braves (with former #1 overall pick Dansby Swanson and Aaron Blair) for Shelby Miller and Gabe Speier, one of the moves that doomed Arizona GM Dave Stewart.
RF Monte Irvin - 21.3 bWAR, .293/.383/.475 (125 OPS+), 2,499 AB (1949-1956). "Mr. Murder" was a Negro Leagues star whose career was cut short by segregation and military service. Most believed he was the best player in the Negro Leagues, but it was Jackie Robinson, not Irvin, who first crossed the color line. Irvin was 30 years old when he finally got the chance, two years after Jackie, to play in the bigs. His best year was 1951, when he hit .312/.415/.514 with 24 HR and 121 RBI, finishing third in the MVP race. "As great as he was in 1951," said Roy Campanella, who won the MVP that year, "he was twice that good 10 years earlier." Irvin was inducted into the Hall of Fame in 1973.
DH Pete Incaviglia - 10.3 bWAR, .246/.310/.448 (104 OPS+), 4,233 AB (1986-1998). "Inky" was one of the best college players of his generation, setting an NCAA record with 100 home runs in 213 games at Oklahoma State. He told teams interested in drafting him that he wouldn't sign unless they allowed him to skip the minors; the Expos took him 8th overall but immediately traded him to the Rangers. (MLB later adopted a rule prohibiting trades of newly drafted players, informally dubbed "The Pete Incaviglia Rule.") Incaviglia would then hit 30 home runs as a 22-year-old rookie... which would turn out to be his single-season career high. A low-average, high-strikeout player, Incaviglia played for six teams in 12 seasons -- not counting the Expos or the Diamondbacks, who signed him to a minor league deal in his final season -- plus one season in Japan. He would later be a hitting coach and manager in the minors.
Bench: There were an extraordinary amount of Infielders whose last names start with I; some good ones couldn't make the cut. The five guys on the bench total 45.3 bWAR... Q's bench was -1.5.
UT Maicer Izturis - 11.3 bWAR, .269/.331/.372 (90 OPS+), 3,013 AB (2004-2014). "Mighty Mouse" nearly evenly split his career between third base (2,552 innings) and second base (2,456 innings), but he also played nearly 1,700 innings at shorstop. Though his career OPS+ was below average, he did have some good offensive years -- .293/.365/.412 in 2006 and .300/.359/.434 in 2009. A series of injuries ended the Venezuelan's career after the 2014 season.
SS José Iglesias - 11.1 bWAR, .273/.315/.371 (84 OPS+), 2,706 AB (2011-2019). The 18-year-old Iglesias defected from Cuba during the 2008 World Junior Championship and signed with the Red Sox, immediately becoming one of the team's top prospects. He bounced up and down between Boston and the minors in 2011 and 2012, but in 2013 he won the starting job and after a tremendous start (.330/.376/.409 in 63 games) was included in a three-team deal for Jake Peavy. He would spend five seasons with the Tigers, hitting .268/.312/.364; last year he signed with the Reds and hit .288/.318/.407. Now 30, this off-season he signed a one-year deal with the Orioles.
3B Charlie Irwin - 9.2 bWAR, .268/.331/.345 (82 OPS+), 3,685 AB (1893-1902). Primarily known for his glove -- he ranked 1st or 2nd in 3B fielding percentage in five of his 10 seasons -- Irwin hit a respectable .273/.346/.317 (105 OPS+) with the Brooklyn Superbas in 1902, his final season in the bigs, then would go on to play several more seasons in the Pacific Coast League, and like so many others on this team would later be a manager.
1B/3B/OF Mike Ivie - 7.3 bWAR, .269/.324/.421 (110 OPS+), 2,694 AB (1971-1983). The first overall pick of the 1970 draft by the San Diego Padres, Ivie made his debut as a September call-up at the tender age of 18, going 8-for-17 with 3 RBIs in six games as a catcher. He'd return to the bigs in 1974, now a first baseman; they'd later try him at third and in the outfield, too. (His best position was probably DH.) A right-handed hitter good at mashing lefties (.693 OPS vsR, .846 OPS vsL), Ivie would top 400 ABs just three times in 11 seasons. He retired at the age of 30.
2B Tadahito Iguchi - 6.4 bWAR, .268/.338/.401 (93 OPS+), 1,841 AB (2005-2008). A star player in Japan, Iguchi came to MLB as a 30-year-old in 2005, signing with the White Sox. He would hit .278/.342/.438 and finish fourth in the ROY voting, and became the first Japanese-born position player to win a World Series. He returned to Japan in 2009 and would finally retire in 2017 at the age of 42. Iguchi has four rings -- one with the White Sox and three from Japan -- and since 2018 has been manager of the Chiba Lotte Marines.
Starting Pitchers: So it's going to be great hitting vs great pitching. The I-team has the bats, but the Q-team has the arms: The I's best pitcher would be #3 on the Q's, and after that... it's not pretty. The I-team has just 21.4 bWAR from its rotation, compared to 77.9 for the Q-team.
SP Hisashi Iwakuma - 16.9 bWAR, 63-39, 3.42 ERA, 1.143 WHIP, 883.2 IP (2012-2017). One advantage the I-team has over the Q-team is Japanese players, who represent three-fifths of the starting rotation. The ace is Kuma, who went 107-69 with a 3.25 ERA in Japan and then came to the United States where he had six pretty good seasons, all with the Mariners and all after his 30th birthday. His best year was 2013, when he was an All-Star and finished third in the Cy Young Award voting, going 14-6 with a 2.66 ERA and 1.006 WHIP.
SP Hideki Irabu - 3.4 bWAR, 34-35, 5.15 ERA, 1.405 WHIP, 514.0 IP (1997-2002). Irabu was a star in Japan with the Chiba Lotte Marines who wanted to pitch in MLB... specifically with the Yankees. Under an existing arrangement with the Padres, Chiba sold Irabu's rights to San Diego in 1997 and then traded him to New York for Ruben Rivera, Rafael Medina, and $3 million in cash. The first season of Irabu's four-year, $12.8 million deal was a disaster (5-4, 7.09 ERA, 1.669 WHIP), but he wasn't bad in 1998-1999 (24-16, 4.44 ERA, 1.315 WHIP). But Boss Steinbrenner didn't like him and he was traded to the Expos, where he went a disappointing 2-7 with a 6.69 ERA in two seasons. In 2002 he was used as a reliever with the Rangers, going 3-8 with 16 saves. He would then return to Japan, pitching two seasons before retiring in 2005. He briefly came out of retirement in 2009 to pitch in independent leagues in both the United States and Japan. In 2011, Irabu apparently hanged himself in his California home. He was just 42.
SP Mike Ignasiak - 0.9 BWAR, 10-4, 4.80 EARA, 1.504 WHIP, 137.0 IP (1991-1995). A teammate of Barry Larkin, Jim Abbott, and Scott Kamieniecki at the University of Michigan, Ignasiak went 47-25 with a 3.23 ERA in eight minor league seasons -- including a 55.2 scoreless inning streak between 1993 and 1994 -- then went 10-4 with a 4.80 ERA over four seasons with the Brewers. In 1996, he signed with the Red Sox but suffered a back injury that ended his career. He took up golf in his mid-30s and became one of the top amateur players in the country.
SP Bert Inks - 0.5 bWAR, 27-46, 5.52 ERA, 1.733 WHIP in 603.2 IP (1891-1896). A 6'3" lefty, Inks and his brother Will both played for Notre Dame. Will and a third brother, Fred, also played a little pro ball but only Bert made it to the bigs. He pitched for six teams in just five seasons, most of them bad.
SP Kazuhisa Ishii - -0.3 bWAR, 39-34, 4.44 ERA, 1.528 WHIP, 564.0 IP (2002-2005). Walks were Kaz's downfall, with 5.6 BB/9 over his four-year MLB career. After leaving the bigs, the lefty returned to Japan where he'd pitch until the age of 40 for a total of 18 seasons. In Japan, Ishii went 143-103 with a 3.63 ERA and 1.307 WHIP (and 3.9 BB/9, 8.8 K/9).
Relief Pitchers: Once again, the Q-team comes out on top. Team Q had 54.4 bWAR from its relievers; the I-team, less than half that at 25.3 (and most of that coming from their closer).
RP Jason Isringhausen - 13.0 bWAR, 51-55, 300 SV, 3.64 ERA, 1.328 WHIP, 1007.2 IP (1995-2012). One of the first players I think of when it comes to I-names, Izzy finished fourth in the NL ROY voting after an impressive debut season (9-2, 2.81 ERA, 1.280 WHIP) with the New York Mets at the age of 22. But injuries, ineffectiveness, and a bout with tuberculosis caused his Mets career to fizzle, and in 1999 he was traded to the Oakland A's where he would become a top closer. He was named to two All-Star teams and recorded 11 post-season saves.
RP Raisel Iglesias - 8.3 bWAR, 14-29, 98 SV, 3.17 ERA, 1.135 WHIP, 388.2 IP (2015-2019). Raisel Iglesias apparently isn't related to Jose Iglesias, but were born in, and fled from, Cuba. Raisel signed with the Reds, who converted him to a starter (he had been a reliever with the Cuban national team), but after going 4-8 with a 3.88 ERA in 21 starts, they switched him back to a reliever. In 231 relief appearances, he's posted a 2.85 ERA with 98 saves; overall, he's struck out 448 batters in 388.2 IP.
RP Jeff Innis - 4.6 bWAR, 10-20, 5 SV, 3.05 ERA, 1.272 WHIP, 360.0 IP (1987-1993). Jeff pitched all seven seasons of his MLB career with the New York Mets. A side-arming sinkerballer, "the I-Man" was known for his impressions of players and staff, including GM Frank Cashen. Maybe that's why the Mets declined to offer Innis a contract after the 1993 season. He signed with the Twins, and that spring training had the distinction of giving up the first professional base hit to a 31-year-old rookie named Michael Jordan. Jeff would stick around in the minors for a few more seasons, even working on a knuckleball, but never made it back to the bigs.
RP Gregory Infante - 1.0 bWAR, 3-2, 0 SV, 3.56 ERA, 1.332 WHIP, 68.1 IP (2010-2018). Infante was a baby -- ha, ha -- when he came up the first time in 2010, as a 22-year-old reliever with the White Sox. He pitched in five games without allowing a run and struck out five batters, though he did give up two hits and four walks in 4.2 innings. He would then spend the next eight seasons bouncing between organizations in the minors before finally returning to the bigs in 2017 with... the White Sox. So in nine years, he's pitched in 67 games, all with Chicago. Infante, now 30, signed with the Orioles last year but was released before the season started; the Venezuelan spent this off-season pitching in the Venezuelan Winter League.
RP Cole Irvin - -0.2 bWAR, 2-1, 1 SV, 5.83 ERA, 1.392 WHIP, 41.2 IP (2019). A 5th round pick by the Phillies in the 2016 draft, Swirvin Irvin went 6-1 with a 3.94 ERA in 16 starts and one relief appearance in Triple-A, then was promoted to the bigs where he had three starts and 13 relief appearances. The lefty was named the 2018 International League Pitcher of the Year after going 14-4 with a 2.57 ERA for the Lehigh Valley IronPigs.
RP Ryota Igarashi - -1.4 bWAR, 5-2, 0 SV, 6.41 ERA, 1.808 WHIP, 73.0 IP (2010-2012). Once renowned as one of the hardest throwers in Japan -- he struck out 97 batters in 78 innings in 2002 -- the New York Mets signed the 31-year-old reliever in 2010 but he struggled, giving up 24 runs, 29 hits, and 18 walks in 30.1 IP (but he did strike out 25 batters). The following year he gave up 20 runs on 43 hits and 28 walks in 38.2 IP (with 42 Ks), and the Mets released him. He signed with the Pirates, but was traded to the Blue Jays; they released him after two disastrous outings and the Yankees signed him, and they gave up on him after two more ugly appearances. Igarashi returned to Japan, where he's still pitching at age 41!
The I's who were... Ignored:
Here are the remaining 34 players whose last name starts with I. Some were fairly Impressive, others were Inferior.
Reliever Edgar Ibarra pitched in two games with the Angels in 2015, giving up one run on four hits and three walks while striking out three in four innings. The lefty has spent the last few seasons pitching winter ball in his native Venezuela.
Ham Iburg's real name was Herman; I don't know why they called him Ham. A San Francisco native who started and ended his career in the Pacific Coast League, Iburg had just one season in the bigs, going 11-18 with the 1902 Philadelphia Phillies; he was under contract to return in 1903, but he went back to California instead. The Pacific Coast League of that era offered better weather, easier travel, and sometimes better salaries than MLB, and many players like Iburg simply preferred playing on the west coast than in the Show.
Kei Igawa was a fading Japanese ace -- he even was briefly sent to the minors in 2005, and had become unpopular with fans -- but the Yankees needed an answer to the Red Sox signing Daisuke Matsuzaka two weeks earlier. After going 2-1 (with a 7.63 ERA) in his first six games, Igawa was sent to the minors; he'd return in June, get sent down again, and then be back in September. He'd end the year 2-3 with a 6.25 ERA. He would get bombed in two more appearances the following year, giving up six runs on 13 hits in just 4 innings, and would never resurface in MLB, despite posting adequate numbers in Triple-A (33-22, 3.81 ERA, 1.297 WHIP). After his release in 2011, Igawa returned to Japan, where he would pitch several more seasons with the Orix Buffaloes.
Gary Ignasiak is the big brother -- by 18 years! -- of pitcher Mike Ignasiak. Gary got into three games with the Tigers in 1973, striking out 4 batters in 4.2 innings but also giving up five hits and three walks. They sent him back to the minors but he never mastered his control, walking 647 batters in 825.0 minor league innings, and was out of pro baseball by the age of 25.
Reliever Blaise Ilsley made 10 appearances with the Cubs in 1994, giving up 13 runs on 25 hits and nine walks in 15.0 innings. Not surprisingly, the Cubs didn't bring him back. But he did have a long minor league career, and was later a pitching coach in the minors and a bullpen coach with the St. Louis Cardinals.
Doc Imlay had nine appearances for the Philadelphia Phillies in 1913, giving up 13 runs on 19 hits and seven walks in 13.2 innings. Imlay would then have a more successful career as a dentist in New Jersey.
Infielder Alexis Infante went 5-for-27 with the Blue Jays between 1987 and 1989, and 1-for-28 with the Braves in 1990. He would later be a manager in the Dominican Republic. The three Infantes in MLB history -- Alexis, Gregory, and Omar -- do not appear to be closely related, though all are from Venezuela.
Bob Ingersoll was a 31-year-old reliever who made four appearances with the Reds in 1914, giving up two runs on five hits and five walks in six innings.
A utilityman with the 1911 Boston Rustlers -- they wouldn't become the Braves until the following year -- Scotty Ingerton would get 521 AB while playing six different positions, hitting .250/.304/.340. After baseball, the former Rustler would become a deputy in Ohio.
A century later, another utilityman named Joe Inglett would play six positions (and pitch an inning!) across six seasons with the Indians, Blue Jays, Brewers, and Astros. Inglett would hit a respectable .283/.342/.392 in 808 career AB, but didn't get to the majors until he was 28 years old and never really got a chance; his best season was 2008, when he would hit .297/.355/.407 in 344 AB.
Charlie Ingraham caught one game for the Baltimore Orioles in 1883, going 1-for-4.
Utilityman Garey Ingram got into 82 games for the Dodgers between 1994 and 1997, going 37-for-142 (.261 BA). He played second, third, and outfield. He'd later be a coach in the minor leagues.
Mel Ingram -- apparently no relation to Garey -- had a "Moonlight Graham" MLB career, playing in MLB but never getting a plate appearance. He appeared in three games, all as a pinch runner, and scored a run for the Pittsburgh Pirates in 1929.
The third man with this last name, Ricardo Ingram, played in 12 games with the Tigers in 1994 and four with the Twins in 1995, going a combined total of 6-for-31 (.194). He would later be a minor league coach and manager, but tragically developed brain cancer and died in 2015 at the age of 48.
Brothers Dane Iorg and Garth Iorg played in the 1970s and 80s. Dane was a 1st round pick by the Philadelphia Phillies in 1971, but he didn't make it to the Show until 1977; then, after just 12 games, was traded to the St. Louis Cardinals for Bake McBride. A left-handed hitter, Dane was platooned throughout his career, hitting .284/.326/.387 in 1,502 AB vsR but just .200/.220/.276 in 145 AB vsL. Given his lack of power (14 career HR), speed (5 career SB), and defense (-3.1 career dWAR), it's surprising he had a 10-year MLB career. But he did win World Series rings with the '82 Cardinals and '85 Royals, going 12-for-23 (.522) with five doubles and a triple when it mattered most! Big brother Garth was originally drafted by the Yankees, but the Blue Jays took him in the 1976 expansion draft and he'd play his entire career as a utilityman for Toronto. After his MLB career ended, he would play in the short-lived Senior Professional Baseball Association, then would be a coach with the Brewers as well as a minor league manager. His sons Isaac, Eli, and Cale all played in the minors but never made the Show.
Happy Iott played in three games with the 1903 Cleveland Naps, going 2-for-10. A Maine native, the outfielder would later play in minor league and semipro teams in his home state.
Apparently no relation, Hooks Iott pitched in two games as a 21-year-old rookie with the St. Louis Browns in 1941, then in 24 games with the Browns and Giants in 1947... something must have happened in the middle... oh right, World War II. The lefty served in the U.S. Army Air Force during the war. He went 3-9 with a 7.05 ERA in 81.2 IP in his bifurcated MLB career, then would pitch into the late 1950s in the minors, including going 24-9 with a 1.83 ERA in 260.0 IP with the St. Petersburg Saints of the Florida International League in 1952.
Switch-hitting infielder Hal Irelan played just one season in the bigs, hitting .236 in 67 games with the Philadelphia Phillies in 1914. He would have a much longer career in the minors, still playing for Decatur in the, appropriately enough, Three-I League in 1926. He'd later be a minor league manager.
Another switch-hitting infielder came along in the early 1980s, Tim Ireland. He would go 1-for-7 in 11 games with the Royals scattered between 1981 and 1982. After a long career in the minors, Ireland would spend two seasons with the Hiroshima Toyo Carp, hitting .275 with 18 HR in 585 AB. Like many others on this list, he would later be a manager in the minors.
Venezuelan Hernan Iribarren hit .185 in 27 AB for the Brewers between 2008 and 2009; he returned to the majors in 2016 at the age of 32 and hit .311 in 45 AB for the Reds. A utilityman, Iribarren saw time first, second, third, and all three outfield positions.
A highly prized prospect at Ferrum Junior College, Daryl Irvine was selected in three different drafts -- in the 3rd round, in the 2nd round, and finally in the 1st round -- before signing with the Red Sox in 1985. He posted a 3.34 ERA in nine minor league seasons, but never mastered his control, with 291 walks in 711.2 minor league innings. In the bigs, he posted a 5.68 ERA and an unsightly 4.7 BB/9 (with just 3.8 K/9).
Bill Irwin somehow acquired the nickname Phil. He pitched in two games for the Cincinnati Red Stockings late in the 1886 season, giving up 19 runs (11 earned) on 18 hits and eight walks. Each was a complete game loss!
Third baseman Ed Irwin played in one game with the Detroit Tigers in 1912, going 2-for-3 -- and both hits were triples! How he came to play in one and only game is a tale in and of itself. Ty Cobb had been suspended indefinitely for one of his more infamous incidents -- he'd jumped into the stands to beat up a man who had no hands -- and Tiger players refused to take the field until he was reinstated, or at least given a punishment with an end date. Rather than forfeit the game, the Tigers recruited some local college and semipro players, including Irwin. They were crushed 24-2 by the A's. League President Ban Johnson then told the Tigers that he'd kick all of them out of baseball if they refused to play again, and the strike ended. Cobb was reinstated on May 26. As for Irwin, he was killed in a bar brawl four years later. It's believed he still has the record for "most triples by a player without another base hit."
The brother of Arthur Irwin, infielder John Irwin hit .246 in 1,269 career at-bats. It's said he owed at least some of those at-bats to the fact that big brother Arthur was his manager with the 1889 Washington Nationals and 1891 Boston Reds.
Phil Irwin had two starts in the bigs, one with the Pirates in 2013 and another with the Rangers in 2014; he gave up eight runs (seven earned) on 12 hits and six walks in 8.2 innings. In 2015, he pitched in the Korean League, going 1-7 with a 8.68 ERA.
Shortstop Tommy Irwin got into three games with the Cleveland Indians late in the 1938 season; he went 1-for-9. Later in life he'd be a scout for Cleveland.
The last of the Irwins is Walt Irwin, who got into four games as a pinch runner and pinch hitter for the 1921 St. Louis Cardinals; he struck out in his only at-bat.
Orlando Isales started his pro career at the tender age of 15. By the time he reached the bigs in 1980, he was a veteran... at the age of 20. He played in three games for the Phillies in 1980; he went 2-for-5 with a triple, a walk, and three RBIs (.400/.500/.800!). But he never got another chance; he was in Triple-A for a few more years, then left for the Mexican League.
Travis Ishikawa is best remembered for his walk-off home run off Michael Wacha in the 2014 NLCS to send the Giants to the World Series for the third time in five seasons. "Smoky" only topped 200 AB once in his career, and accumulated just 1.1 career bWAR, but Giant fans won't ever forget him. He would later be a hitting coach for the Giants in the Arizona Fall League.
Akinori Iwamura was a top performer for the Yakult Swallows, topping .300 BA/30 HR in three straight seasons prior to signing with the Tampa Bay Devil Rays in 2007. He hit a respectable .281/.354/.393 with the Rays over his first three MLB seasons, but cratered in 2010, hitting .182 with the Pirates and then .129 with the A's. After his release, the infielder would return to play in Japan for four more seasons.
Cuban-born catcher Hank Izquierdo went 7-for-26 in his only MLB season of 1967, playing for the Minnesota Twins. A lifer in the minor leagues, he didn't get the Call until he was 36 years old; his pro career started as a 20-year-old with Galveston in the Gulf Coast League in 1951, and ended with Veracruz in the Mexican League in 1974. He had 1,870 games in professional baseball, but only 16 in the bigs. He was later a minor league coach, a Mexican League manager, and a scout with the Minnesota Twins.
Another Cuban-born player, Hansel Izquierdo, defected when he was a teenager on the Cuban national junior team. He pitched in 20 games for the Florida Marlins in 2002, giving up 17 runs (15 earned) on 33 hits and 21 walks in 29.2 innings. He never resurfaced in the bigs, but he would pitch for 11 years in the minors, including stints with the White Sox, Expos, Yankees, and Pirates.
Cesar Izturis, Maicer's half-brother, played 13 years and accumulated 4,350 AB despite a career 64 OPS+, a testament to his glove. Over his career, the Venezuelan was 64 runs better than the average shortstop. Although his only All-Star selection came in 2005, his best year was the year before that, when he hit .288/.330/.381 in 670 AB, set career highs in nearly everything, and won a Gold Glove. His son, Cesar Izturis Jr., is a 20-year-old prospect in the Seattle Mariners system.
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2020.01.15 22:11 CuteBananaMuffin Did Extraterrestrials from Venus make contact in 1952 ? [MEGA THREAD] + videos and pictures and illustrations

Did Extraterrestrials from Venus make contact in 1952 ? [MEGA THREAD] + videos and pictures and illustrations
by Michael Salla (original author) December 2017

Part 1
December 12, 2017

French researcher Michel Zirger has written a highly detailed book on extraterrestrial contact which highlights the encounters of George Adamski with alleged extraterrestrials from Venus.
In We Are Here - Visitors without a Passport (2017), Zirger provides a solid overview of a collection of photos and testimonies backing up Adamski's famed November 20, 1952 encounter near Desert Center, California.
Zirger points out that Adamski's encounter was the first documented contact case with an occupant from a flying saucer craft, widely believed to be a Venusian extraterrestrial.
Six witnesses saw two UFO craft on the day of Adamski's encounter.
The first was a large cigar shaped craft that flew overhead, and the second was a smaller saucer shaped scout craft that landed. From the scout craft an occupant emerged to meet with Adamski, who claimed to be from the planet Venus and went by the name, Orthon.
In his book, Zirger includes digitally enhanced copies of the original photos taken at Adamski's encounter which show both the scout craft hovering before landing, and its occupant who emerged after the landing.
The photos were enhanced by Danish artist Rene Erik Olsen who has made the Desert Landing photos available on his website.

(C) Rene Erik Olsen 2017

The following photo is an enhancement of a person (Orthon) walking from the direction of the landed scout craft towards Adamski.
Discussion and close-ups are available in We Are Here.

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The six witnesses to the landing and Adamski's encounter with its occupant signed an affidavit supporting Adamski's version of events that was subsequently published in his 1953 co-written book, The Flying Saucers Have Landed.
Zirger cites one of the witnesses, George Hunt Williamson, who was recorded to say during a lecture:
I would like to reaffirm here that the experience, as George Adamski has related in The Flying Saucers Have Landed, where my wife and I, along with friends of ours, were witnesses to the occurrence, happened exactly as Mr. Adamski mentions there in Flying Saucers Have Landed: the large craft was witnessed, and then through binoculars we did witness the other happenings about a mile away on the desert…
We did see Mr. Adamski talking to someone… at a distance. We saw the large craft. We saw flashes of light from it, from which we later learned the smaller craft had come out of the larger one.
We did see a great opening in the bigger craft through which the smaller scout-ship must have originally left the larger ship…
We did see the small ship as it hovered in the saddle [see abovephoto of the base of the small hills where Adamski was standing]. Kindle Edition 5203-10
Despite the compelling evidence, Adamski's 1952 encounter was widely debunked.
Zirger discusses the shocking extent to which evidence and testimonies supporting Adamski's famous Desert Center landing was dismissed, ridiculed or distorted by leading scientists of the era such as,
Dr. Donald Menzel Dr. Jacques Vallee Dr. Carl Sagan
Most UFO researchers have ever since dismissed Adamski as a hoaxer, despite the compelling evidence suggesting otherwise. Indeed, Adamski's photos of flying saucers and cigar shaped ships dating from 1950 have never been shown to be forgeries.
Adamski believed that the being who emerged from the landed scout craft in 1952 was from Venus.
Zirger discusses the feasibility of Adamski's belief given scientific data that subsequently emerged showing the surface of Venus as uninhabitable due to the high temperatures (462°C - 863° F) and crushing atmospheric pressure (92 times that of Earth).
Zirger discusses a number of possibilities for how extraterrestrials may inhabit Venus. He suggests that NASA may be lying about the horrific conditions on the surface of Venus.
Another possibility is that extraterrestrials merely have a base there and came from elsewhere in the galaxy.
Yet, another possibility is that extraterrestrials live in the subterranean regions of Venus as made feasible by recent scientific research.
He cites Sean McMahon, who led a scientific team from the University of Aberdeen, that claimed life could evolve inside a planet's interior, well away from an inhospitable surface:
The surfaces of rocky planets and moons that we know of are nothing like Earth.
They're typically cold and barren with no atmosphere or a very thin or even corrosive atmosphere. Going below the surface protects you from a whole host of unpleasant conditions on the surface.
So the subsurface habitable zone may turn out to be very important.
Earth might even be unusual in having life on the surface.
Zirger appears to favor the "New Age" explanation that a highly evolved civilization, which "ascended" to another dimensional plane, exists today under the surface of Venus.
He suggests that on the surface of Venus, today, there may be only rare vestiges of the ancient civilization that once thrived on the surface.
Zirger cites a range of esoteric texts and sources supporting the idea that an advanced civilization exists on Venus, but is hidden from modern telescopes and planetary probes sent by different national space agencies.
For example, he refers to the 1899 book, A Dweller of Two planets:
"No telescope will ever reveal life on Venus: not that it is not there, but its forms are of the One Substance effected by a range of force rendering them imperceptible to earthly eyes."
There have been a number of contactees who claim to have met Venusians from the interior of the planet, well away from telescopes and space probes.
These include Frank Stranges, author of the book, Stranger at the Pentagon

Eisenhower video

More recently, Goode, claims he was taken to Venus where he saw some of the ancient structures he calls "builder race technologies" on the planet's surface.
[W]e headed towards Venus at a super high rate of speed, punching through the thick clouds.
I barely could perceive yellowish color, we went through them so fast. And then we stopped about 1,000 feet [305 meters] above the ground, and I was looking around, and I saw this terrain that looked like it had been eroded by lots of wind and rain, sort of like you would see in Earth.
They looked like they used to be mountains going up that had eroded away, and they looked almost like people. It looked almost carved by an intelligent hand.
So I was noticing that, when all of a sudden the ceiling and the floor went transparent…
And I looked down, and I could see the big, giant, H-shaped building sitting inside this crater.

Giant H Shaped stone structure in a crater on Venus surface according to Corey Goode.

This account has parallels to the alleged visit to Venus by Bolivian contactee Luis Mostajo Fernando who says the entered into a fertile area of Venus protected by an energy shield.
Fernando and other accounts of visits to Venus does support an ancient civilization once inhabited its surface, and that subterranean areas exist that support current life there.
Zirger's discussion of the explanations for Orthon's claim to be from Venus despite its inhospitable surface conditions is wide ranging and informative.
Yet it is in another possibility that Zirger raises that may offer a more accurate way of viewing Adamski's 1952 encounter.
Zirger questions whether Adamski was fed disinformation by Orthon about Venus being his true origin:
Was Adamski manipulated by a "pseudo-Venusian"?
Was this Venusian origin part of a smokescreen or of some sort of extraterrestrial "communication plan" to awaken our consciousness to the idea of extraterrestrial life?…
The underlying motto of this "communicating strategy" would then be something like: "Let's tell lies, let's tell lies, there will still be something left over," ...Adamski being considered not much more than an interface to a disinformation or deception game. Kindle Edition, 1032 of 5403
Zirger believes that the possible disinformation was designed to protect the true origins of Orthon and his spacecraft being learned.
Zirger expressed puzzlement over why extraterrestrials from another solar system would want to pretend to be from an uninhabitable world from our own solar system:
"Why such a masquerade when they could have simply said they were from the planet T of the solar system Y? Kindle Edition, 1042 of 5403
Zirger overlooks an 'earth-centric' explanation for the disinformation that may have been fed to Adamski.
This is raised by one of the contact cases mentioned by Zirger in We Are Here.
He cites the 1957 case of Reinhold Schmidt:
I would like to quote briefly a last case, that of Reinhold O. Schmidt, 60 at the time, a Bakersfield (Calif.) grain buyer.
On November 5, 1957, he claimed to have spoken for about 30 minutes to the crew of a large silver cigar-shaped UFO that had allegedly landed near Kearney on the Nebraska prairie to make repairs.
In an available one-hour-and-a-half tape-recorded interview Schmidt stated the crew was composed of "four men and two ladies."
They all spoke to him "in American language with a German accent," but at times he seemed to him that he could hear them talking among themselves in "high German language, very good high German." Kindle Edition, 526-531
The Schmidt case raises the question,
was Orthon part of a German Secret Space Program and was only pretending to be a Venusian?

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Part 2 Did German Astronaut Pretend to be from Venus
during Adamski 1952 Encounter? December 14, 2017

Above Part One in this series, raised the possibility that George Adamski was fooled into believing that Venus was the origin of Orthon, the flying saucer occupant he met in December 1952.
There are a number of aspects about Adamski's 1952 contactee case that leads to the conclusion that Orthon was part of a German secret space program, and/or linked to an extraterrestrial alliance that had actively helped Nazi Germany leading up to and during World War.
The flying saucers that Adamski had photographed very closely resembled the Haunebu antigravity craft that had allegedly been developed in Nazi Germany.
The exact specifications of the Haunebu craft contained in Nazi SS files were first released by Vladimir Terziski, an engineer and former member of the Bulgarian Academy of Sciences.
The Nazi files were released after the collapse of the Warsaw Pact on February 25, 1991, and came into Terziski's possession after he had immigrated to the US in 1984.
Below is a comparison of a 1943 design of a Haunebu II flying saucer craft being developed by the Nazi SS for the war effort, and a scout craft photographed by Adamski in December 1952.


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Note the major point of difference is that the Nazi craft had some kind of artillery device signifying an attempt at weaponizing flying saucer craft for the war effort.
Indeed, in 1950, articles appeared in major newspapers around the world citing interviews with prominent Italian and German scientists who confirmed that the Axis powers had been cooperating in a secret effort to weaponize flying saucers.
The configuration of the 1943 Haunebu craft is so similar to those Adamski photographed in 1952 as to suggest that if not the same type of vehicle, then whoever developed the latter was at a similar technological level of development as the Germans in the mid-1940's.
Yet, if Orthon was from Venus, and part of an advanced interplanetary association as discussed by Zirger in his book, We Are Here - Visitors without a Passport (2017), then,
how could the first generation of Nazi flying saucers have been almost identical to craft used in a far more technologically evolved interplanetary society?
One explanation is that extraterrestrials had provided craft to Nazi Germany so that they could be reverse engineered.
This is supported by information provided by former aerospace engineer, William Tompkins, who says that US Navy spies had reported during their debriefings at Naval Air Station, San Diego, from 1942 to 1946, that the Germans had been given over a dozen models of operational antigravity spacecraft.
The Nazis were furiously attempting to reverse engineer these for the war effort, but were ultimately unsuccessful as far as their European based programs were concerned.
Tompkins' information helps us understand that the 1943 Haunebu II diagram was an attempt by the Nazis to weaponize an antigravity flying saucer, which had been given to Hitler's Third Reich by extraterrestrial allies as a result of a secret agreement.

US Navy Spies Learned of Nazi Alliance with Reptilian Extraterrestrials VIDEO

Therefore, Orthon may have only pretended to be from Venus, in order to hide the existence of a German space program that had survived World War II.
Orthon only communicated with Adamski non-verbally using sign language during the 1952 Desert Center encounter.
Adamski explained in a lecture that Orthon,
"spoke mostly in a strange dialect wholly unintelligible to Adamski". We Are Here
Was the "strange dialect" High German which, as mentioned in Part 1 far above, of this series, Reinhold Schmidt identified as being used by the spacecraft occupants during his 1957 contact experience.
Schmidt had a German background and was also taught High German at school, but Adamski may have not been able to identify German dialects since his background was Polish-American.
Alternatively, Adamski may have known that Orthon spoke German, but was not allowed to publicly reveal this for national security reasons.
It has long been rumored that after each of his extraterrestrial contact experiences, Adamski was secretly flown from California to the Pentagon by the U.S. Air Force where he was debriefed about his contacts.
In May 2009, a rare video was released containing interviews with various witnesses who knew about Adamski and his secret debriefings at the Pentagon.
The witnesses confirmed that Adamski possessed a military ordnance ID card which allowed him access into the Pentagon. The military ID was witnessed by several people, who had worked in various Department of Defense positions.
Among the witnesses was William Sherwood who had previously worked for the U.S. Army Ordnance Department) and possessed his own Ordnance pass.
Sherwood saw Adamski's Ordnance pass and confirmed its authenticity.

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Sherwood's and other supporting testimony gives credence to rumors that Adamski was indeed secretly briefing the Pentagon about his extraterrestrial contacts.
In 1952, the Pentagon was well aware that a German Space Program had survived World War II and had begun operating over U.S. territory.
Senior Pentagon officials wanted this to be kept secret. Consequently, it is very possible that Adamski was told not to say anything about Orthon speaking German to prevent the public from learning the truth.
The possibility that Orthon was part of a German Secret Space Program, based in Antarctica, which was operating over U.S. territory, is strengthened by events leading up to the 1952 Washington Flyover.
This occurred only months before Adamski's encounter with Orthon

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Part 3 Pentagon Hid German Secret Space Program Link to Alien Contact Cases December 16, 2017

t was found in part 2 above of this series that George Adamski was very likely ordered by the Pentagon to withhold important elements of his alleged 1952 extraterrestrial contact that suggested the existence of a German Secret Space Program in Antarctica.
Understanding why Adamski would have been ordered to do this, requires understanding events that occurred over five years earlier in Antarctica.
In the Southern Hemisphere summer of 1946/1947 Admiral Richard Byrd led a large Naval task force to Antarctica during Operation Highjump with secret orders to flush out any Nazis that had established secret bases in the frozen continent.
This was not the first time Byrd had been given secret orders to flush out Nazis hidden in Antarctica.
Seven years earlier, in mid-1939 Byrd had been commanded by President Franklin Roosevelt to lead a Naval expedition to Antarctica to determine whether Nazi bases in Antarctica violated the Monroe Doctrine.
The New York Time reported on July 7, 1939:
President Roosevelt moved today to prevent possible extension of Germany's claims to Antarctic areas into the Western Hemisphere by directing Real Admiral Richard E. Byrd to leave in October to territory within the sphere of influence of the Monroe Doctrine…
It [is] apparent that this government was prepared to take the position, if necessary, that any attempts by foreign powers to establish bases west of the 180th meridian in the Antarctic would be considered an unfriendly act…
Byrd's 1939/1940 expedition did not succeed in finding the German Antarctic bases, which were well hidden under the ice sheets.
Years later, during the Nuremburg War Crimes Trials, Admiral Donitz repeated his earlier wartime claims of having have used Germany's submarine fleet to build,
"an invulnerable fortress, a paradise-like oasis in the middle of eternal ice."
After the premature ending of Operation Highjump in February 1947, Byrd gave an interview in Chile on March 5 while traveling back to the U.S. where he spoke of an enemy that could fly from the South Pole region to attack the US:
Admiral Richard E Byrd warned today of the necessity for the United States to adopt protective measures against the possibility of an invasion of the country by hostile aircraft proceeding from the polar regions.
The admiral said: 'I do not want to scare anybody but the bitter reality is that in the event of a new war, the United States will be attacked by aircraft flying in from over one or both poles.'
The overall context of Byrd's interview suggested that the Germans had successfully weaponized their flying saucer craft and other advanced aerial vehicles to the extent that nothing possessed by the US Navy could match these in performance, weapons and range.
Indeed, only a few months after Byrd's interview, the Kenneth Arnold UFO incident occurred in June 1947, where he witnessed fleets of flying wing shaped craft over the Cascade mountains of Oregon and Washington State.


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The flying wing craft were very similar to what the Horton Brothers had been developing for Nazi Germany, one of which had been relocated to the U.S. after World War II.
It's feasible that successful prototypes had been developed and moved to Antarctica, and were by 1947 able to overfly U.S. territory.
Therefore, Admiral Byrd's warning had proved prescient insofar as the Germans based in Antarctica had the capacity to overfly US territory with impunity. Therefore, with the subsequent rise of the UFO sightings after the Arnold incident, it can be concluded some, if not many of these, could be connected to the German Space Program out of Antarctica.
In two successive weekends in July 1952, waves of UFOs flew over Washington DC.
Tens of thousands witnessed the flyovers which were photographed, caught on radar, and sighted by military pilots. The sightings were so dramatic that the US Air Force gave a Press Conference to dismiss it all as a "temperature inversion" weather anomaly.
For decades, the truth about the crafts origins was kept secret, but eventually it was revealed that the UFOs were in fact German flying saucers. Three insiders/whistleblowers were all made familiar with the German origins of the craft.
William Tompkins, a former aerospace engineer, Clark McClelland, a former NASA spacecraft operator, and Corey Goode, a former participant in a "20 and Back" US Navy space program, all said the same.
They had been either briefed or had learned that it was German antigravity spacecraft which had overflown Washington DC., in 1952.

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This raises a strong possibility that there is a direct connection between Adamski's 1952 encounter and the German space program that had initiated flyovers over US territory as suggested in the June 1947 Arnold incident and Byrd's March 1947 warning.
Furthermore, as discussed in part 2 above, the similarities between the "scoutcraft" witnessed by Adamski and the "Haunebu II" craft being developed by the Nazis for the War effort, does suggest that Germans had succeeded in moving some of their more advanced operational models to Antarctica.
The idea that some of the UFOs sighted over US territory were part of a German secret space program is strengthened by two additional UFO landing incidents during the 1950's, the same period that Adamski said he was having contact experiences with Venusians.
On January 7, 1956, Willard Wannall, a Master Sergeant with the US Army at the time, says that he saw a flying saucer land in a secluded area of Kaimuki, near Honolulu, Hawaii.
He was debriefed by US Army and US Air Force Intelligence officers at Fort Shafter where he was stationed, and wrote a 32 page report of the incident to his commanding officer.
While Wannall's brief description of the incident was mentioned in UFO sightings reports at the time, his detailed report about it has never been publicly released.
After retiring from the Army, he wrote a book about the incident in 1967, where he described how he was still under national security orders not to divulge key details about the incident:
However, it may be stated without jeopardizing the safety of my family and friends, or violating any security restrictions, that we witnessed the landing near our home of a clearly defined unconventional flying object which remained under our surveillance all of forty-five minutes prior to its departure.
In addition to myself, there were six other responsible, and highly respected individuals present, who viewed the details of this sighting alternately with and without the aid of high-powered binoculars.
Decades later, a reporter with the Maui UFO Report was able to interview Wannall before his 2000 passing, and the public was able to learn for the first time some of the key details of the UFO landing incident:
This time the bell shaped, silver, domed, port holed craft landed in the densely wooded hills behind Honolulu.
When Sergeant Wannall approached, a hatch opened. He noted the swastika and Nazi Iron Cross on both the UFO and the uniform of the occupant. The saucer pilot spoke with a German accent, and had a Nazi uniform on him!…
Sgt Wannall told us that escaped Nazis, who had flying saucers, had fled to South America and secret underground bases, below the Ice in Antarctica shortly before the Nazi war surrender. Hawaii UFO Magazine #2
Wannall's description of the craft matches closely what Adamski had photographed and witnessed in 1952, and the Haunbu II craft that had been secretly developed by Nazi Germany.


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It is now understandable why Wannall's 32 page report about the 1956 incident was never publicly released under Project Blue Book, as it showed that a German Secret Space Program was actively overflying and landing all over US territories, including the Hawaiian Islands.
The fact that the pilot spoke with a German accent, wore a Nazi uniform, and was able to land near a US military base (Fort Shafter) shows that the occupants had no fear of being shot at.
This suggested that there had been some kind of agreement reached with US military authorities about German spacecraft flying over and landing on U.S. territory.
This finally brings us to the Reinhold Schmidt incident briefly mentioned in Part one.
Schmidt described meeting with the occupants of a flying saucer that landed on November 5, 1957 near Kearney, Nebraska. They spoke in German-accented English to him, and used High German when communicating among themselves.
In his book, Edge of Tomorrow, Schmidt wrote that he initially believed the six occupants were German scientists:
I thought that perhaps it might have come from Russia, and that it was manned by a crew of German scientists getting data on the first Russian Sputnik which had been launched about a week before.
After later being contacted by one of the occupants, Schmidt had further encounters and changed his mind about the craft's origins. He now referred to the craft's occupants as extraterrestrials from Saturn.
Like Adamski, Schmidt may have been misled by the craft's occupants to believe they were extraterrestrials despite the obvious signs that they were part of a German Secret Space Program operating long after the end of World War II.
Alternatively, again like Adamski, Schmidt may have been pressured by national security authorities to drop any public references to the spacecraft occupants being German astronauts.
This latter explanation is supported by the puzzling treatment Schmidt received by local authorities after reporting his initial 1957 contact.
The initial interest and friendly support which led to overnight national media exposure, shifted dramatically into outright hostility by local authorities after the arrival of two Air Force officials.
After extensive interviews and debriefings with multiple officials, the local and national media, and the Air Force officials Schmidt was pressured to recant his public testimony by the Chief of Police.
Schmidt was mysteriously jailed without charges for two days, and then committed to a mental institution in Hastings, Nebraska. All this was done without him being allowed legal representation.
He was eventually released after intervention by his family and employer.
The heavy pressure placed on Schmidt to change his story after the intervention of two USAF officials, clearly suggests that key elements of it threatened national security.
In fact his release from custody was likely a result of him agreeing to change key elements of his story.
Schmidt's testimony suggested, as in the cases of Adamski and Wannall, that craft belonging to a German Secret Space Program were actively overflying and landing on US territories.
Any reference to the German origin of the craft were downplayed, and instead references to extraterrestrials from Venus, Saturn or elsewhere were emphasized.
Conclusion
In conclusion, the material examined in this three part series of articles suggests that the George Adamski contactee case, as well as the Wannall and Schmidt cases, were very likely cases of US citizens interacting with members of a German Space Program operating out of Antarctica.
Both the occupants of the flying saucer craft, as well as the US military hid the German connection and encouraged the extraterrestrial hypothesis to explain their origin.
This is not to say that all alleged extraterrestrial contact cases really involve public interaction with members of a German secret space program operating out of Antarctica.
After all, the Germans had been helped by extraterrestrials who had supplied them with operational spacecraft for reverse engineering during World War II, and had helped the Germans establish their Antarctica bases.

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Despite the extraterrestrial involvement in the German Space Program, there is a need to review the 1950's and 1960's contactee cases to determine the true origins of the alleged "Space Brothers", and Pentagon efforts to suppress the truth.
The US national security establishment encouraged the debunking of contactees such as Adamski, Schmidt and many others, not because they feared the public learning about extraterrestrial visitation, but because they feared the public learning the truth about the German breakaway colony in Antarctica.
The most powerful nation states of the era, the US, Britain, France and the Soviet Union did not want their citizens to learn that not only had a remnant of Nazi Germany survived World War II, but that its technological achievements in advanced aerospace technologies had become so dominant that the former Allied powers had nothing to match these with.
It was hoped that secret agreements, infiltration of German Antarctic facilities and deception would be the tools to bridge the technological gap.
In the meantime, the truth would be suppressed about the German connection to the "Space Brothers" encounters that Adamski, Schmidt, Wannall and other contactees began having in the 1950's.

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2019.11.26 23:37 linwoodhw 2019 Rule 5 Draft Preview

Recently, the roster deadline for MLB teams to protect players from the Rule V draft passed, meaning eligible players not added to their team’s 40-man roster would be exposed to the December draft. From MLB, here’s a brief explanation of how the draft works: http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/rule-5-draft.
Looking ahead to the 2019 edition of the Rule 5 draft, I decided to collect some names to watch for in this year’s draft. While I can’t guarantee that all (or, for that matter, any) of these guys will be selected, and there will probably be players besides those listed that will end up being selected, all of these names seem like they will at least merit some consideration, especially given that teams will have a 26th roster spot to play around with in 2020. While looking at this year’s class, I also looked back at previous years to see what player archetypes are prone to be selected, and broke potential names to watch into these categories.
Upper Minors Corner Bats: Roberto Ramos (COL), Brian Mundell (COL), Vince Fernandez (COL), Jason Vosler (SDP), John Nogowski (STL), Jose Rojas (LAA), Eric Filia (SEA)
This is the bucket of players under which notable past selections like Mike Ford, Ji-Man Choi, and Mark Canha fall. Each of these guys have clear shortcomings (otherwise they would have been protected), but also have recent track records of upper-minors performance and intriguing enough offensive skillsets to perhaps interest a team with a versatile position player group seeking to add an extra bat as the 26th man on the roster or an AL team seeking an option to share time at designated hitter. Teams like the Mariners, Blue Jays, Rangers, and Royals might stand to add offensive depth to their corneDH mix, while the Brewers might seek a cheap replacement for Eric Thames in order to focus spending on filling the holes produced by the loss of Mike Moustakas and Yasmani Grandal. The Tigers might also stand to add corner depth.
Ramos, Mundell, and Fernandez all fit into a group of upper minors bats in Colorado’s system, and all ended up unprotected despite strong performances in 2019. Ramos, a lefty-swinging first baseman from Mexico who will play next year at 25, has hit very well his entire minor league career and in the last two years in particular. He’s hit 62 homers across three levels in the last two seasons and has walked roughly 12% of the time during those seasons, although his strikeout rate is concerningly close to 30%. While he’s certainly been helped by the PCL hitting environment and the high altitude at Albuquerque, Ramos posted a 135 wrc+ in 2019 at AAA and is projected for an OPS between .800 and .820 at the MLB level next year, per Steamer and Clay Davenport (with the benefit of Coors). However, Ramos is pretty much a first base only option, with reports praising his work to become playable there and his arm strength but also bemoaning his lack of speed, and Davenport’s minor league defensive metrics peg him as a below average defender at the cold corner (career -16 runs in roughly 3000 innings).
Mundell is a year older and similarly large-framed, but bats from the right side. Additionally, he’s more of a hit-over contact option, with a career high of just 14 homers. That said, he’s been an above average hitter at every level he’s played, including a 125 wrc+ in AAA this season, and has yet to produce a strikeout rate above 20% while maintaining a solid walk rate. Primarily a first baseman (at first, an awful defender who seems to have improved recently) up until this year, Mundell spent more time in left, where he was a well below average defender thanks to limited speed.
Fernandez is a lot like Ramos, as a big lefty hitter with power (.287 ISO in AA in 2019) and plate discipline but strikeout issues. While he’s typically been old for his level, he’s also been comfortably above average offensively every year. Fangraphs’ prospect team isn’t especially high on his defensive ability (calling him left field only) and scouting sources have soured on his defensive ability and athleticism, but he’s actually graded out slightly positively in the outfield corners per Davenport. Steamer doesn’t love Fernandez, but Davenport’s system projects him for an .806 OPS and gives him significant upside based on his power and patience.
Vosler was moved around last year in a 40-man shuffle type deal, and despite a 113 wrc+ in AAA in 2019, he was not added to San Diego’s 40-man this offseason, likely in part due to the club’s two large contracts on the corner infield spots, where Vosler has almost exclusively played the last two years. He’s topped 20 homers in each of the last three years and has some ability to lift the ball, although 2019 represented a step back in this regard. He pulls the ball a lot and has some strikeout concerns but has walked a good amount besides a tepid half of 2018 in AAA. He’s not especially athletic and probably doesn’t fit well in a corner outfield role but has checked in as solid at first and below average but not unplayable at third in the minors. Davenport’s projections don’t love him but have him posting a power-driven OPS around .720 at the MLB level in 2020.
John Nogowksi is the rare righty-swinging, lefty-throwing pro player, and has certainly had an unlikely path to Rule 5 consideration, as chronicled by Fangraphs. He’ll be 27 next year, and as a primarily first base option (albeit an above average one, per Davenport, and he is apparently working in the outfield in winter ball), he’ll have to hit a lot to stick. Luckily, he’s done just that with the Cardinals, posting a 122 wrc+ at AAA in 2019 thanks largely to a 14.9% BB% compared to just a 11.7% strikeout rate. He has some power, but Nogowski’s offensive profile certainly depends on his plate discipline and contact skills, which have him projected for a 95 Wrc+.
Rojas is one of four active Jose Rojases in the minors, and while I don’t know much about the others, he’s probably the most powerful, having slugged 31 home runs in AAA in 2019, which combined with a solid batting average and a respectable K/BB ratio to produce a 120 wrc+, following a strong 162 wrc+ showing in AA in 2018. He’s struggled adjusting to both AA and AAA, and was caught being overaggressive in cameos at each level in 2017 and 2018, respectively. He’ll be 27 next year but has experience at third, second, left, and first, although he hasn’t exactly been good at any of them except the latter. That said, there’s left-handed power here, and he projects for a .738 OPS per Davenport.
Finally, Filia represents an interesting if flawed option. His strengths are obvious, with 174 career walks in the minors to just 109 career strikeouts and a career .412 OBP. He’s been average or better offensively at every level he’s played, but is already 27, has a career best ISO of .157, and has a past riddled with missed time due to suspensions and injuries. He’s not particularly versatile, having played essentially just first and right, and isn’t great at either position. I don’t think Filia is especially likely to be selected, but he’s projected for a 92 wrc+ by Steamer and his .450 OBP in AAA last year is hard to ignore.
Upper Minors Utility Guys: Eli White (TEX), Chad De La Guerra (BOS), Bryson Brigman (MIA), Vimael Machin (CHC)
While the prior guys were largely characterized by offensive abilities and defensive limitations, these guys stand out moreso for an ability to handle more difficult defensive positions while also offering some intriguing offensive attributes. These are your Jeff Kobernus, Taylor Featherston, and Colin Walsh types. They might present an interesting option for a team to carry on their bench for defensive flexibility while also presenting some offensive ability.
White was acquired from the Rangers last offseason as part of the Jurickson Profar deal and spent 2019 with the Rangers’ AAA affiliate in Nashville. He followed up a 132 wrc+ in AA in 2018 with an 84 at AAA in 2019 and battled a shoulder injury. He draws walks, has solidly above average speed, and primarily played short and center in 2019 but he has limited power and doesn’t seem to be a standout defender.
De La Guerra battled right wrist and hamstring injuries in 2019 and is already 27 but hits left-handed and has played a good deal of shortstop as a professional. He’s been nearly average or better in every season he’s played and has been well above average dating back to 2017. He combines a strong walk rate with solid lefty power that has played up since he increased his flyball rate in AA. And while De La Guerra isn’t a great defender at short, he doesn’t seem terrible there, which could make him an interesting power and patience-based bench bat.
Brigman reached AA in 2019, and his positive attributes include patience at the plate, strong defense at second base, feel for contact, and excellent makeup. He’s been a productive hitter in each of the last two years and is still splitting time between second and short despite concerns over his arm strength. It’s possible that a lack of power and arm strength prevent Brigman from being anything more than a utility infielder, but it’s possible a team believes in him at shortstop enough to roster him.
Machin is a stocky left-handed hitter that recently turned 26 and has a lengthy track record of offensive production as a professional. He walks a ton, doesn’t strike out much, and has some feel for contact, although he’s got limited power and speed. 2018 was a disappointing season for Machin, but he rebounded well in 2019, reaching AAA and posting a 129 wrc+ at AA. He’s bounced all around the infield and has some experience in the outfield, and while his defense at short isn’t highly regarded, he spent his most time as a professional there in 2019. His offensive projections aren’t exactly great, but perhaps Machin has enough discipline, contact ability, and versatility to be seen as a Major League contributor in 2020.
Catching Depth: Taylor Gushue (WSH), P.J. Higgins (CHC), Brett Cumberland (BAL), Rafael Marchan (PHI)
It isn’t especially common, but a few catchers have recently been selected in the Rule 5 Draft, including Adrian Nieto and Stuart Turner. It’s possible that the 26th roster spot may give teams the flexibility to carry a third catcher and be more aggressive in pinch hitting or pinch running for their catchers, possibly opening up an avenue for a Rule 5 catcher to get an MLB opportunity.
Gushue will play next year at 26, and while he doesn’t exactly have a long track record of offensive success, he’s a switch hitter who posted a 108 wrc+ in AAA in 2019, where he hit 11 home runs in 288 PA. He doesn’t stand out for plate discipline or contact ability but is playable behind the dish, which might cause a team on the lookout for catching depth to consider selecting Gushue as a second or third catcher rather than spending on a veteran backstop.
Higgins, while he’s already 26 and is a shorter, stockier right-handed hitter, is interesting because he’s got some offensive track record at the minor league level and offers some positional versatility. He reached AAA last year for the first time and hit well in 140 PA at the minors’ highest level (12.1% BB, 20.7% K, 113 wrc+) after a solid cameo at AA to start the year. He’s had an up-and-down offensive track record in the minors but has generally shown strong discipline and hit a career-high 10 home runs in 339 PA in 2019. He entered pro ball as an infielder but began catching part time in 2016, and Fangraphs called him “a viable but unspectacular” defender behind the dish. He’s still splitting time between catcher, third, first, and second (and he’s graded fairly well everywhere per Davenport) and seems like he could fit well in an Austin Nola type role as a 26th man that could function as a third catcher and utilityman.
Cumberland was severely limited by injury in 2019, reaching AA but playing in just 60 games. However, he made the most of these games, posting a 144 wrc+ at the minors’ penultimate level. He’s hit quite well dating back to 2017, and while he hasn’t hit for a high average in the last two seasons, the switch hitter walks a ton and has shown flashes of power. He does strike out a decent amount but he’s still got a chance to be a solid hitter, especially for a catcher. His defense has improved since college and he isn’t a terrible athlete, but Cumberland may not quite be ready for the Major Leagues in 2020, as he hasn’t even spent a full season at AA, but it’s possible that a team that believes in the bat could stash him as a third catcher and bench bat.
Marchan fits the Luis Torrens mold of very young, raw, talented catchers that aren’t big league ready but could be stashed by a noncontending team looking for young catching depth. Marchan is a smaller switch hitter that turns 21 in February. He hit well in 265 plate appearances at the A ball level in 2019 but scuffled after a promotion to A+, although he maintained his characteristically low strikeout rate. He’s yet to homer as a professional but has a track record of hitting throughout the lower minors and is a good athlete with a good arm and defensive ability and promise. A team might take a chance on him as a contact and defense oriented third catcher who could return to the minors to develop in 2021.
Hyped Young Prospects: Shervyen Netwon (NYM), Wander Javier (MIN), Lolo Sanchez (PIT), Seuly Matias (KCR), Esteury Ruiz (SDP), Moises Gomez (TBR), Garrett Whitley (TBR)
These are the guys that are typically paid the most attention in Rule 5 previews, so I’ll just touch on each one quickly. Newton is a big, athletic, switch-hitting shortstop that dominated rookie ball each of the last two seasons but struggled to make contact in 2019 as a 20-year-old in A ball. He’s got a massive ceiling but is very raw, much like Javier, another 20-year-old shortstop who struggled with strikeouts at A ball in 2019. Sanchez is a little, right-handed center fielder that tore up A ball but scuffled badly at the plate in the Florida State League. He’s got speed and defensive ability but lacks power. Matias is a power-driven righty-swinging 21-year-old corner outfielder that slugged 31 homers in 2018 but struggled badly in 2019, with just a 67 wrc+ in A+ thanks to a K% approaching 45%. Ruiz is a 20-year-old righty that primarily plays second but has also seen time at third and left. He’s fast and has some power but doesn’t walk much and has seen his offensive performance drop as he’s climbed the ladder. Gomez has big power and some speed, but was just okay in A+ ball this year thanks to a 33.3% K%. Whitley, 22, is another righty outfielder with an interesting blend of power, speed, and patience, and he’s been a well above average offensive player in each of his past three full seasons. That said, he’s played more left than center, struck out 37.1% of the time in A+, and missed all of 2018.
Young, Speedy Up-The-Middle Guys: Jose Fermin (CLE), Pablo Olivares (NYY), Lorenzo Cedrola (CIN), Leonardo Rivas (LAA), Yonny Hernandez (TEX)
This is the group that players like Victor Reyes, Carlos Tocci, Ender Inciarte, and Allen Cordoba fit into. While most of these guys are quite young and somewhat unpolished offensively, their ability to contribute on the bases, make contact, and play up the middle defensively makes them interesting candidates for a team looking to add youth, speed, and defensive ability to their bench.
Fermin is a little, twitchy, high energy middle infielder that’s an above average runner and a solid defender up the middle. He’s little and right-handed and will be just 21 next year, having spent all of this year in A ball, where he posted a 123 wrc+. For that reason, he’s an unlikely candidate to be selected, but his extreme ability to make contact and ability to draw walks (a walk rate over 10% the last two seasons and a K% below 9%), speed and acumen on the basepaths, and ability to play solid defense up the middle, along with his high-energy style of play, make him worth monitoring.
Olivares has all kinds of Inciarte/Reyes/Tocci attributes written all over him. Each of those three were slightly above average offensively thanks to above average speed and contact ability at either A+ or AA entering their draft years and showed solid defensive potential in center field. Olivares fits these characteristics to a T, having posted a 107 wrc+ as a speedy, contact-oriented 21-year-old center fielder in 2019. He may lack the present strength to hit for power at the major league level, but he does fit the profile of some previous selections. Cedrola shares many of these characteristics but doesn’t have nearly as much hype and is more aggressive at the dish.
Rivas is a 22-year-old switch hitter with plus speed but limited power, although he did hit a career high of 6 home runs this year. He’s a solid defender across the infield and has started working in center field, and while he wasn’t great offensively in 2019, there’s a chance that he could help a Major League team thanks to his speed, versatility, and patience at the plate, his greatest offensive strength.
Hernandez is tiny (listed at just 5’9”, 140 lb) and has essentially no power to speak of (he’s got just 3 career homers in more than 1500 plate appearances), but he commands the strike zone and has enough plate discipline to still be a significantly above average hitter across the middle levels of the minor leagues, culminating in a 133 wrc+ at A+ and a 115 in AA this year. He walks more than he strikes out, and while he’s still a little raw on the bases, he’s fast enough to have swiped 79 bases over the last two seasons. He’s spent significant time at both second and short as well as some at third and in the outfield, and Fangraphs gives him a 50/55 present/future fielding grade, so it’s possible that the 21-year-old has a future as a speed/defense/contact-oriented utility player.
Upper Level Outfielders: Ronnie Dawson (HOU), Buddy Reed (SDP), Dom Thompson-Williams (SEA), Ka’ai Tom (CLE)
The final player group we’ll look at here will be upper level outfielders, in the mold of Drew Ferguson and Joey Rickard. These guys typically have some blend of present skill and interesting tools and can serve as a fourth or fifth outfielder for a club now while also presenting some long-term upside.
Dawson has big physical tools and has had success as he’s climbed through the minor league ladder, spending most of 2019 at AA and being a slightly above average hitter there. He’s got speed, power, and patience from the left side of the dish, but has significant swing and miss concerns. A former multi-sport athlete, he’s received praise for his work ethic, and it’s possible that a team decides to live with his contact concerns for the other attributes he brings to the table. Reed is a similarly toolsy center fielder, although he’s even faster and likely a better defensive option than Dawson. He’s a 6’4” switch hitter with power and patience but has seen his production hampered by a lack of contact ability. Thompson-Williams is another powespeed over contact center fielder. He too struggled badly with strikeouts at AA but had a breakout season with the Yankees in 2018.
Tom might be the most interesting hitter available for my money. He split 2019 between AA and AAA, hitting extremely well at both levels (162 wrc+ in AA, 132 in AAA). He cut his ground ball rate this year and saw increased home run power at both levels, and he’s walked and been an above average hitter at every level he’s been at. He did have a down year at AA in 2018 and isn’t an especially prolific basestealer, but he’s splitting time between all three outfield positions and has received praise for being a good outfield defender from Fangraphs’ Eric Longenhagen. Tom, 25, is blocked in Cleveland by a bevy of other lefty-swinging extra outfield types, but he looks like a Major League ready fourth outfielder with a chance to be more.
Thank you for reading, and I hope you enjoyed this Rule 5 preview!
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2019.06.13 03:12 claball First time First-Team All-Pro picks for 2019

If that title had you confused don’t be embarrassed. A couple duplicate words, a little alliteration and some hyphens will do that to a person.

Basically this is an All-Pro prediction team that consists solely of players who have never been given First-Team honors.

In 2018, 12 of the 23 players named All-Pro on offense and defense were first-timers.

They include: Patrick Mahomes, Michael Thomas, David Bakhtiari, Mitchell Schwartz, Quenton Nelson, Fletcher Cox, Darius Leonard, Kyle Fuller, Stephon Gilmore, Eddie Jackson, Derwin James and Desmond King.

The opportunity for any player to assert himself as one of the best in the league is what makes the NFL so exciting. Patrick Mahomes had a top three season ever by a quarterback in just his first year as a starter. Stories like that drive the NFL.

There will always be the mainstays like Aaron Donald, J.J. Watt, Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner. But parity is alive and well in the NFL and this "All-Star" team is proof of that. Any player or team has the chance to be the best. It’s likely some of the guys listed below will in fact make First-Team in 2019.

So, here are some of the names to watch who could be making an inaugural appearance as a First-Team All-Pro member in 2019:


Offense

Quarterback

Andrew Luck
Other Considerations: Russell Wilson, Philip Rivers

There are some pretty prestigious quarterbacks who have never been named First-Team All-Pro. Luck, Wilson and Rivers are the biggest of those names and are all serious contenders for this award in 2019.

Rivers and Wilson have both been in the conversation at one point or another in their career. My pick, however, is Indianapolis’ Andrew Luck.

He’s remarkably coming off his best season in the NFL after major shoulder issues. Luck threw 39 touchdown passes which would often be enough to lead the league. His 67.3% completion is a career high. He also won his first playoff game since 2014. But most importantly… HE HADN’T PLAYED AN NFL GAME IN 19 MONTHS. You can’t stress enough how great Luck’s 2018 season was amidst all the doubt. Leading up to the 2018 season there was significant uncertainty that Luck would ever look like himself again. At 28 years old his best football might have been behind him.

Luck thought differently. Week one of 2018 he came out and completed 39 passes (73.6% completion), threw for 319 yards at six yards per attempt and connected on two touchdowns.

This is why I believe Luck is in a great position for this honor in 2019. His ability is back and the supporting cast is better. A suddenly phenomenal offensive line, a nasty tight end duo and one of the best deep threats in football not to mention a feisty defense make up the current Colts.

With his high statistical ceiling, it won’t take luck for Luck to make a hard push for First-Team All-Pro this season.

Running Back

Alvin Kamara
Other Considerations: Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, David Johnson

This is the one I feel least passionate about. There are so many good young running backs in the league right now who haven’t really had the opportunity at First-Team All-Pro with Todd Gurley’s recent reign. But, with Gurley’s worrisome knee concerns, this spot appears up for grabs in 2019.

I ultimately landed on Alvin Kamara as this squad’s back. He’s been among the most efficient offensive players with his limited touches in the past two seasons. He hasn’t eclipsed 200 carries in a season yet has an impressive 22 rushing touchdowns in his short career. Kamara has averaged 15.5 total touchdowns in each season and is a threat to score from anywhere on the field. On the receiving end, he has the second most receptions from a running back in the last two seasons with 162, just behind McCaffrey’s 187. He’s also never had any major injury problems. His only missed game was due to a concussion from a nasty hit by Jaylon Smith last year.

The most prominent reason for Alvin Kamara being the pick here though, is the departure of Mark Ingram. Sure, the Saints brought in Latavius Murray. But, he won’t be getting anything close to the 184 carries Ingram has averaged since Kamara was drafted.

So, in a nutshell, this is why Kamara is primed for a massive increase in production: He averaged 152 yards from scrimmage, 8 receptions and 1.5 touchdowns in the four games Ingram was suspended in 2018.

That production expanded to a 16-game season is 2,432 yards from scrimmage, 128 receptions and 24 touchdowns. Obviously those numbers are inflated and likely aren’t attainable. But, this is what a backfield where Kamara is the featured back could look like.

New Orleans has a Hall of Fame quarterback still playing like it and an offensive line that’s among the league’s elite. There’s no reason Alvin Kamara can’t be the NFL’s best running back in 2019.

Flex

Christian McCaffrey

The “Flex” position goes to my second choice at running back. The designation also fits McCaffrey perfectly. He’s the best receiver at the running back position in the league. He’s also the most utilized running back in the NFL. McCaffrey played an absurd 91.30% of snaps in 2018. That’s the most of any running back in the NFL and 8% more than the next highest back (Barkley). He’s a featured back if there ever was one. Take that draft analysts.

McCaffrey also proved he isn’t just a receiver in a running back’s body in 2018. His 5 yards per carry average bested his 2017 mark by 1.3 yards. He did that on 102 more carries too. His best single game rushing performance came in week three where he carried the ball 28 time for 184 yards. That was the first major sign that McCaffrey could handle a bell-cow type workload.

The Panthers will always heavily utilize McCaffrey in a receiving role. His 2018 season showed he could be counted on just as much as a runner. Thanks to that dual-threat ability he came just 35 yards short of 2,000 total yards from scrimmage in 2018. That mark is certainly within reach this season. If McCaffrey accomplishes that, he’ll be in a strong position to make this team.

Wide Receiver

Davante Adams, Odell Beckham Jr.
Other Considerations: Mike Evans, Keenan Allen, A.J. Green

There are so many good second-tier receivers (guys not named Antonio, Julio or DeAndre) that this position has plenty of options. I narrowed the short-list down to five players. Evans, Allen and Green just missed the cut, but it wouldn’t be a surprise to anyone if their names showed up on this team come January.

My top pick here is Davante Adams. I see Davante as this year’s Michael Thomas. A special receiver in his own right who will be elevated to new heights thanks to his quarterback and offense. Sure, Adams had Rodgers last year too, but some flux in the head coaching department led to a little offensive uncertainty midseason.

That won’t be a hurdle in 2019. New coach and offensive mind Matt LaFleur is now directing Rodgers and Co. LaFleur is one of the many coaches to emerge from Sean McVay’s coaching tree already. That connection alone can get some excited. A shake-up on offense could be just what the Packers need to reach the potential Rodgers is capable of.

Being the absolutely unquestioned number one receiver in Green Bay (along with Rodgers throwing the ball) is Adams’ biggest asset. They lost Randall Cobb in the offseason and their current number two wideout is Geronimo Allison… or Marquez Valdes-Scantling… or Equanimeous St. Brown. I don’t know, pick one. Either way it’s no one who will take targets away from Adams.

The sixth year wideout showed in 2018 that he can be the top receiver for the Packers. Jordy Nelson’s departure opened a door and Adams ran through it. 111 receptions, 1,386 yards and 13 touchdowns later, Adams has removed any doubt that he can handle this responsibility. At 26, he’s directly in his prime. This could be Davante Adam’s year.

The second selection here is a player who, based purely on raw talent, belongs in the top tier of NFL receivers. If Odell Beckham Jr. had continued his trajectory from his first three seasons (basically by not catching the injury bug) he’d be a unanimous elite. Some might still put him up there, but being available is absolutely a trait that comes into consideration when judging players.

Now he’s in Cleveland and hopefully left the injuries in New York. Beckham has an upgrade at quarterback, an upgrade at offensive line and an upgrade at surrounding receiving talent (Landry, Njoku > Shepard, Engram. Barely). Plus an offense with a lot more swagger that he can feel at home in. Attitude is a big part of Beckham being successful. The feeling surrounding Cleveland right now is electric.

It just felt like Beckham needed to restart. Reuniting with former LSU teammate Jarvis Landry is an awesome story. That was one of the cooler relationships in the NFL before they joined forces in Ohio. Now, they’ll be shredding defenses side-by-side like they did in college.

Having Baker Mayfield tossing the pigskin definitely doesn’t hurt either. His incredible accuracy and gunslinger mentality makes him a great pairing for Beckham. He quietly threw for the most touchdowns ever by a rookie quarterback in 2018. Mayfield is the real deal. There won’t be 10 dump-offs a game like in New York, and instead those targets will be bombed downfield to a wide-open Beckham.

OBJ is big reason why the Browns are so hyped this year. Beckham will finally be playing for something with a team that can match his intensity. It feels like the perfect fit.

Tight End

George Kittle
Other Considerations: Zach Ertz, O.J. Howard

Probably the easiest decision on this team. I had to double check to make sure Kittle didn’t actually make 2018 First-Team All-Pro. He didn’t, but honestly it could have been a coin flip between he and Travis Kelce. Frankly, if so much wasn’t dependent on the stat sheet, Kittle’s impact as a blocker could have made up for the five less touchdowns he scored. I mean the guy broke the single-season record for receiving yards by a tight end and can block you as effectively as a disgruntled celebrity on twitter. That’s not a combination you see every day.

Just so I cover all the bases, why Kittle over Ertz if stats are so important? It has to do with what Kittle had to deal with that Ertz didn’t in 2018. Quarterback instability. George Kittle played with three quarterbacks in 2018. That includes 2.5 games from Garoppolo, 5.5 games from C.J. Beathard and 8 games from Nick Mullens. That’s a lot of chemistry that isn’t being built with your quarterback. It shouldn’t be a problem again if the best of that group is able to play a 16-game season for the first time in his career.

Another note is that Zach Ertz has some legitimate “competition” from teammate Dallas Goedert. Ertz is clearly the number one, but Goedert stole a fair amount of production from Ertz in 2018. Kittle will only be vying with Garrett Celek who had five catches for 90 yards and two scores in all of 2018.

This spot is realistically between two players: Kelce vs. Kittle. Well-established superstar vs. emerging talent. George Kittle might be the favorite for First-Team in 2019.

Left Tackle

Terron Armstead
Other Considerations: Trent Williams, Jake Matthews, Russell Okung, Alejandro Villanueva

There are never enough left tackles to go around in the NFL. However, there is a really solid crop of players who’ve failed to appear on the All-Pro First Team. Some are fairly new to the NFL scene while others are savvy vets who have just barely missed the cut at times in their career.

The best of this group is Saints’ left tackle Terron Armstead.

The NFL is a passing league, but offensive linemen still need to be able to run-block. Armstead excels in both. Unfortunately for him, it’s what he can’t control that’s kept him from really sprouting in the league. Health.

It’s a shame when a player as good as Terron Armstead gets blasted with injuries. He’s never completed a 16-game season in his six-year New Orleans career. Armstead has only been able to play in 27 of 48 possible contests since his 2015 breakout season. The Saints offense is a drastically different product with Armstead in. Because they rely on the run so heavily, an offensive tackle who can not only keep Brees’ blind side cl but also clear lanes for Alvin Kamara is infinitely valuable.

New Orleans has some great pieces on their line (see: next position) but Terron Armstead is the biggest presence. He made Second-Team All-Pro in 2018. If he can remain healthy in 2019, he could be looking at a First-Team berth.

Right Tackle

Ryan Ramczyk
Other Considerations: Mike McGlinchey, Trent Brown, Braden Smith

This right tackle group is full of up-and-comers. Brown, McGlinchey and Smith all distinguished themselves as special players in 2018. There is one player though, who’s just a step above.

As far as right tackles go, Ryan Ramczyk was a star on arrival in New Orleans. He acclimated quickly to the NFL scene as a rookie. Ramczyk made every conceivable All-Rookie team assembled by writers in 2017. Then, in 2018, he continued his ascension and was named Second-Team All-Pro.

Landing in New Orleans with Drew Brees in the backfield is a dream scenario for a lineman. Brees knows how to orchestrate an offense and navigate a pocket. Still, a team needs players who can execute a game plan and do their job.

Ramczyk is a mauler in the run game and, like Terron Armstead, can also hold his own against defensive pressure. He actually has potential at left tackle with his athleticism, but the Saints don’t have a need there and put Ramczyk in the best spot to succeed immediately.

The right tackle position on the All-Pro team is a pretty wide open race. Since the team began separating right tackles and left tackles in 2016 no player has repeated on the right side. A rookie made the team in 2016 (Conklin) and in 2018 a previously solid player made it (Schwartz). 2019 could be Ramczyk’s turn.

Left Guard

Joel Bitonio
Other Considerations: Joe Thuney, Ali Marpet

The guard position is the most unknown job on a football roster to the average fan. Most recognize the big names like Marshal Yanda, Zack Martin and Quenton Nelson. But beyond the mainstream characters, it’s a lot of “Joes”. This is what makes offensive line such an interesting position group. It’s such a vital part of an offense but information on it is relatively uncirculated. It’s time to give these guys some cred.

Joel Bitonio has been really good for a couple seasons now. You could have made a very convincing argument about Bitonio making the All-Pro’s First Team in 2018. His consolation? A Second-Team bid. Often what separates a lineman from one team or the other is a little bit more or less publicity. I don’t know anyone who could tell you definitively why Quenton Nelson was better than Bitonio in 2018. That’s what makes judging offensive lineman so hard for the every day fan.

Regardless, Joel Bitonio is among the league’s best left guards. He also finds himself in an odd position of being on a very hyped team that is getting more action this offseason than they’ve had in the previous 10 combined. Vote Joel Bitonio for left guard 2019.

Right Guard

Shaq Mason
Other Considerations: Brandon Scherff

If any position gets less attention than left guard, it’s right guard. Thanks to right handed quarterbacks, the right side of the line often plays the role of the middle child. That being especially true for the guard spot as it is played near the actual middle of the line.

Shaq Mason entered the NFL as a 22 year-old which is incredibly young for an offensive lineman. He’s also the shortest offensive lineman in the NFL coming in at just 6’ 1”. The Patriots' offensive line factory is for real. Not many teams could turn a player this vertically challenged into an elite asset.

Mason has been starting for New England ever since he was drafted in 2015. 2018 was certainly his best season to date. Cowboy’s guard Zack Martin pretty much has had a monopoly on the right guard spot for the All-Pro team. Martin has been named All-Pro in each of the past five years, three First-Teams and two Second-Teams. It’ll be tough to dethrone him. Shaq Mason is the underdog and if there’s anything a Patriot knows well, it’s being doubted… wait that’s not right…

Center

Javon Mack
Other Considerations: David Andrews, Matt Paradis

By utilizing context clues you’ve probably deduced that this is in fact Alex Mack of the Atlanta Falcons. His full name is actually Javon Alexander Mack. Just wanted an opportunity to get that out there. Now, onto less interesting information.

Mack is always the bridesmaid and never the bride. He’s earned three Second-Team All-Pro bids in his 10 year career but never a first. With the additions of two first round offensive linemen to Atlanta’s line, this unit as a whole should see major improvement.

Javon Mack wasn’t his typically dominant self last year. With new starters on either side of Mack in Chris Lindstrom and James Carpenter, he should return to form in 2019.


Defense

EDGE

Joey Bosa, Myles Garrett
Other Considerations: Demarcus Lawrence, Trey Flowers, Danielle Hunter, Frank Clark

Edge rusher is one of the more wide open positions on this team. A high sack total can take you far as we saw with Vic Beasley in the 2016 season. Sacks can be a deceptive statistic when focused on in a vacuum though. Other categories like hits, hurries and pressures can give a more complete picture of the impact an edge rusher makes. However, those numbers aren’t as mainstream and don’t receive the attention they deserve.

There are a plethora of candidates for this spot, but a couple stand out: Joey Bosa and Myles Garrett. They’ve only played a combined five seasons and have both shown consistent signs of utter dominance on the field. The best is yet to come for these young players.

Bosa and Garrett have the highest per game sack average of the pass rushers under consideration here, and by a decent margin. Bosa averages .81 sacks per game and Garrett averages .75 per game.

For Joey Bosa, putting together a full 16-game season in 2019 could be enough to thrust his name into the elite tier of edge rushers. He got off to a hot start in the NFL, recording back-to-back double digit sack seasons before only playing seven games in 2018.

There’s no question about surrounding talent in Los Angeles. Melvin Ingram flying off the edge opposite Bosa as well as first round pick Jerry Tillery on the interior presents a unique challenge for offensive lines. A competent linebacking corps and stifling secondary allows each player to simply focus on doing his job and nothing more. Bosa is a dynamic pass-rusher ready to take over the league.

Myles Garrett’s situation in Cleveland is similar in talent to Bosa’s. But, the former first overall pick might have even moresupport on the defensive line. John Dorsey added Olivier Vernon and Sheldon Richardson in the offseason, both of whom possess quarterback-hunting chops. Cleveland has built a daunting front four.

Myles Garrett tallied 13.5 sacks in 2018 without elite reinforcements. Now he heads into 2019 with a revamped line and all the hype a team could want. The Browns are already riding a wave and Garrett might be able to take that all the way to First-Team All-Pro.

Interior Defensive Linemen

Akiem Hicks, DeForest Buckner
Other Considerations: Chris Jones, Grady Jarrett

Contrary to the parity at the edge rusher position on this team, interior defensive lineman is among the toughest to breakthrough at. That’s in large part because the league is really only fighting for one spot. Aaron Donald resides here 12 months out of the year. He’s made First-Team in each of the past four seasons. During that time no other player has repeated at this spot. The other four appearances are from Fletcher Cox, Cameron Heyward, Damon Harrison and Geno Atkins.

In 2019 there is an abundance of contenders for interior defensive lineman.

Akiem Hicks’ 16 sacks over the past two seasons gives him the flashy stats to get his name out there. He also plays for the league’s best defense at the moment. Hicks is in a phenomenal position for continued success in Chicago. He plays next to a run stuffing tackle in Eddie Goldman and in front of one of the league’s best quarterback killers in Khalil Mack. Akiem Hicks would be the best player on a majority of NFL squads, but falls as the fourth or fifth best in the Windy City which is absolutely bonkers. He could sneak up on people and challenge for a spot on this team.

DeForest Buckner is the other selection here. In 2018 he exploded for 12.5 sacks as the lone threat on the 49ers’ defensive line.

The theme here is surrounding talent and San Francisco doesn’t lack in that department. They’ve continued to load up in the trenches and finally look ready to unleash their crew on the NFL. Having Dee Ford and Nick Bosa at end is going to be legitimately scary for opposing quarterbacks. Buckner is basically a big end playing on the inside. He’s quickly become a uniquely disruptive presence. Buckner has an excellent chance to take his game to the next level with an All-Pro bid.

Linebacker

Deion Jones, Leighton Vander Esch, Benardrick McKinney
Other Considerations: Roquan Smith, Jaylon Smith

When you think linebacker in the NFL there are two names that immediately come to mind: Luke Kuechly and Bobby Wagner. These two superstars have made up 2/3 of the First-Team All-Pro linebacking corps all but two seasons dating back to 2013. They’ve represented the class of this position for a large part of the 2010’s. So, including three new names here is incredibly unlikely to actually happen. But, these are the players fighting for that third spot at linebacker.

Deion Jones is a bit of a forgotten entity after his injury riddled 2018 campaign. But, when looking at coverage linebackers in the NFL, the list of players better than Jones is a blank one. He’s been one of the best new-age linebackers who excel with speed and quickness over size and power. Jones recorded three interceptions in each of his first two seasons and had two already last year in just six games before going down for the season. The fourth-year pro is also a feisty sideline-to-sideline ’backer who gets in on about every tackle. Jones is a flashy playmaker who serves as the glue to Atlanta’s defense. His impact won’t go unnoticed in 2019.

Next up is a new name to the NFL who’s already more well-known than many of his peers. Leighton Vander Esch has a name that sticks with you. His play stood out just as much as a rookie. In fact he was so good for Dallas in his first season, Vander Esch managed to sideline longtime stalwart Sean Lee. Lee has been the key for the Cowboys defense for years. Leighton Vander Esch passing him on the depth chart just a few games into the season is enough to know he’s the real deal. He racked up tackles in 2018 and asserted himself as among the best at his position. It was a loaded 2018 linebacker draft class. Even though Darius Leonard got the All-Pro nod as a rook, Vander Esch wasn’t far behind.

The final spot at linebacker goes to Benardrick McKinney. He’s been putting in work since entering the league through the second round in 2015. It’s easy to be forgotten when you play in a front seven with J.J. Watt and Jadeveon Clowney. McKinney shouldn't stay under-the-radar for long.

Benardrick McKinney has been a steady riser throughout his four seasons as a pro. He was given a 5-year contract worth $50 million in the 2018 offseason. McKinney earns that money as a suffocating run-stuffer. He’s the tallest linebacker in the league and that size shows up on the field. His coverage skills are still developing but he set career highs in broken up passes with seven and interceptions with one last season. If McKinney can make strides in that area this year, he has good prospects of showing up here after the season concludes.

Cornerback

Marlon Humphrey, Marshon Lattimore
Other Considerations: Casey Hayward, Xavien Howard, Tre’Davious White

In the last five years, no cornerback has appeared twice at this position. That’s pretty astounding. That makes 10 different players occupying this spot in five seasons. The trend could continue in 2019. There are plenty of strong contenders for their first appearance this year.

Truly all of the five players I have listed here have a very equal chance at this honor in 2019.

My first choice is the fast rising corner in Baltimore. Marlon Humphrey showed hints of elite ability in his rookie season. That play proved to be no fluke as he officially broke out in 2018 where he became one of the brightest young corners in the game. Now he’ll enter 2019 as the Ravens unquestioned number one cornerback at just 23 years old. The addition of Earl Thomas could do wonders for Humphrey’s ascension to elite status.

The Saints’ Marshon Lattimore is my second pick. He had a phenomenal start to his career as a rookie, easily earning Defensive Rookie of the Year. That’s tough to do at cornerback. He maintained that excellent play for most of 2019. There were a few bumps in the road throughout the season, but he’s still among the NFL’s up-and-comers at corner.

New Orleans’ renovated defense is looking better at every level. Lattimore is a big reason for the upgraded secondary. There’s still plenty of room for improvement in his game. Putting all the pieces together could yield Lattimore a spot on this team.

Safety

Jamal Adams, Malcolm Jenkins
Other Considerations: John Johnson, Keanu Neal

There are a lot of really good safeties in the NFL right now. The top tier includes seven players who have set themselves apart. Earl Thomas, Harrison Smith, Kevin Byard, Eddie Jackson and Derwin James are five who have already accomplished this feat. That leaves Jamal Adams and Malcolm Jenkins as next in line.

Jamal Adams has only played in the NFL for two years, but it’s somehow already surprising that he hasn’t been on this team. He made Second-Team All-Pro in 2018 and is without a doubt in the same tier as last year First-Teamers Derwin James and Eddie Jackson. Adams is the best thumper of the three and can keep up in the coverage department. James and Jackson ended 2018 with 16 and 21 total pass breakups. Jamal Adams posted 13 combined breakups in 2018. His impact as a coverage safety is still developing but clearly isn't a liability.

If the Jets defense was a better unit last year, it very well could have been Adams as one of the safeties instead of James and Jacksonamal Adams will make this team sooner or later in his NFL career.

Similar to Adams, it’s stunning that Malcolm Jenkins has never made this team. Almost more so because Jenkins is entering his 11th season in the league. He hasn’t always been a elite playmaker, but has had a late career renaissance in Philadelphia as one of their most vital defenders.

A lot of what Malcolm Jenkins does on the field doesn’t show up in the stat sheet. Directing the secondary and diagnosing plays are two of his biggest strengths. He’s also a reliable tackler and dangerous ball-hawk for opposing quarterbacks. Those attributes do show up in the stat sheet.

Jenkins will be playing 2019 at 31 years old. He’s among the oldest starting safeties in the NFL. He hasn’t shown signs of slowing down and could be a surprise entry at safety this season.

Defensive Back

Casey Hayward

Casey Hayward was close to earning this honor twice recently. He made Second-Team All-Pro in 2016 and 2017.

When Hayward arrived in San Diego in 2016 he transformed into a different player. His first year as a Charger, Hayward exploded for seven interceptions and immediately became one of the better free agent signing in recent memory giving the Chargers a CB1.

Hayward’s inconsistency may have been a reason why Green Bay let him walk in free agency. He has a habit of going boom-or-bust in the interception department. His pick totals have gone as follows: 6, 0 (played 3 games), 3, 0, 7, 4 and 0. Two full seasons of zero interceptions and four of 3+. Hayward has the ability to be an elite ball-hawk but that doesn't always show up. It isn’t just the interception numbers that dip during the seasons either. His deflected passes also fall-off without warning. He has three seasons of 20+ deflections and three seasons of less than 10.

It’s a curious case of erratic effectiveness in coverage. Especially considering he played with two All-Pro’s in the secondary in 2018. He isn’t operating on an island.

Casey Hayward will be 30 when the season rolls around. It’s possible he’s hit he wall that many cornerbacks run into at age 30. If not, a return to form could be in the cards. Really anything is possible.
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2018.06.29 18:00 daprice82 Wrestling Observer Rewind ★ Aug. 2, 1999

Going through old issues of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter and posting highlights in my own words. For anyone interested, I highly recommend signing up for the actual site at f4wonline and checking out the full archives.
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  • Vince McMahon appeared on TSN's Off The Record last week and lashed out at Bret Hart. It was the first of 3 episodes that will feature WWF, but Dave only saw the first episode at press time, so we'll get details on the following episodes in the next issue. Anyway, on this one, McMahon reportedly agreed beforehand to answer any and all questions regarding Owen Hart's death. It's worth noting that host Michael Landsberg has always been very pro-WWF, to the point that he has even had discussions with them about leaving TSN to work for them, but in this interview, Landsberg pulled no punches and challenged McMahon on every topic. McMahon defended his choice to continue the show after Owen had died, saying it was one of the most difficult situations but that they never even considered stopping the show because that's just how they do things. He said no disrespect was intended but Landsberg pointed out that most people, including most of the Hart family, did feel that it was disrespectful. When asked why the live audience was never told of Owen's death, Vince just said it didn't feel right to tell them and they were going to find out later anyway. Landsberg then asked Vince about his hour-long meeting with Bret Hart after Owen's funeral, which led Vince to lash out. He said Bret carried the entire conversation and only mentioned Owen once and implied that Bret didn't care about Owen and that Bret was only using Owen's death for revenge on Vince. "I couldn't believe what I was hearing, he said I ruined his marriage, I ruined his career, all he wanted to do was talk about himself. It was like looking into the eyes of a skeleton. He wasn't human. It was a very weird experience." To be fair to both parties, Dave says that before their meeting, Bret had been told by his lawyers not to discuss Owen's death with Vince. Dave says it's likely that Vince didn't know that, so he can see why it might have been weird for Vince to have had a conversation with Bret at Owen's funeral and yet Bret never talked about him. That being said, for Vince to use that private conversation to publicly trash Bret is pretty classless.
  • When asked why McMahon and almost the entire roster went to Owen's funeral but nobody from the company went to Pillman's, Vince said it was a different situation and that Owen's wife asked for the wrestlers to attend (Dave says that implies that Melanie Pillman didn't want wrestlers to attend, which is false and he hints that she was actually hurt that no one from WWF showed up). When asked about paying for Owen's funeral, he said Martha wanted a lavish funeral for Owen (Hart family members have disputed this) and said WWF sent a blank check to the funeral home to cover it, but said Martha insisted on paying for "part" of it on advice from her lawyers. Vince also talked about the letter he sent to the Calgary Sun a few weeks back and says it was never meant to be published (Dave calls total bullshit on that one) and basically said that he knew he was going to appear to be the bad guy no matter what. He's the evil promoter. She's the poor sad widow. "She could be lying through her teeth but I'm not going to win regardless of the facts," Vince said. He said most of the bad publicity that he has gotten in the last few months has been because of Bret, blaming him for being in Martha's ear and said Bret has talked terribly about the WWF in interviews. He again trashed Bret for never talking about Owen in their conversation and said he took advantage of Martha being in a vulnerable emotional state and basically said Bret is leading the lawsuit against them. Dave says pretty much anyone who even halfway knows the Hart family knows that isn't true. The whole thing seemed designed to goad Bret into responding and hopefully make himself and his family look bad. Dave says this is nothing new for WWF. Any time they get into trouble, whether it's the steroid scandals or sex scandals of the past or this, WWF always has a habit of trying to spin the story and turn it into something else. In this case, Vince McMahon is taking the death of Owen Hart and his company's role in it, and is trying to spin it into a Bret vs. Vince story. Anyway, Bret said before the interview aired that he didn't plan to watch and no matter what Vince said, he wasn't going to comment.
  • Also in the interview, Vince was asked about Jesse Ventura being involved with the WWF. When asked about the thought that Ventura was degrading the office of Governor by getting involved in the WWF, Vince defended his product by saying he's only giving the public what they want. Landsberg responded that, "Pornographers hide behind that. There have to be guidelines and there has to be some responsibility." When asked about Ventura's comments about unionizing wrestlers, Vince said that Ventura believed that at one time, but he doesn't anymore, saying Ventura had changed his mind. Dave says that changed mind was bought and paid for pretty recently because less than 6 weeks ago, Ventura was still very vocal that wrestlers needed to unionize. Funny how a big ol' bag of cash will change someone's mind. Vince was asked if he'd ever work with Hogan again and he said "Never say never." When asked what if Eric Bischoff called him up asking for a job, would he work with him? Vince didn't exactly say no, he just said it depends on what Bischoff could offer the WWF.
WATCH: Vince McMahon on TSN Off The Record - 1999
  • The lawsuit filed by Sable against the WWF was officially settled out of court this week. Both sides agreed to keep the terms confidential and to not bad mouth each other in public. On WWF's website, they confirmed the settlement but said nothing else. Last week, before it was finalized, Vince McMahon was interviewed on Entertainment Tonight and implied that Sable wouldn't be getting any money in the settlement. During the same segment, Triple H, Chyna, Big Show and Ivory were brought on as well and they all knocked Sable as someone who got a big head and became a prima donna. Anyway, as for the settlement, Dave does know a few things. Marc Mero was given a full release and can go anywhere now. Meanwhile, the terms of Sable's contract remain the same: she can't work anywhere else in wrestling until her WWF contract expires in August 2001. WWF still owns the name Sable. And the Playboy money terms were settled, although Dave doesn't know the details (that issue of Playboy ended up using the name Sable, so I'm gonna assume WWF got their cut). All in all, sounds like they kinda wiped the floor with her in court. Prior to the settlement, Sable was being interviewed for the show Fox Files and at some point during the interview, Marc Mero got mad and snatched the cameraman's camera and took the tape out because he didn't like the questions being asked. They got footage of it happening and it was played up big in commercials before the interview aired (I can't find video of this sadly).
  • The most famous heel in Lucha Libre history, Cavernario Galindo, passed away this week at age 75 from lung cancer. He was not only a major heel in the ring, but he gained a lot of fame as the lead heel in a bunch of El Santo's movies as well and was arguably one of the top 5 stars in Lucha Libre history. He was one of the pioneers of bloodbath matches, much like The Sheik was in his day, and was the person who popularized the technique of blading in Mexico and had a lot of memorable bloodbaths against Gory Guerrero.
  • WWF Fully Loaded is in the books and was the best PPV from any company in months. Not much newsworthy out of it, just good matches, clean finishes, well done angles, etc. During the Sunday Night Heat pre-show, Triple H cut a worked-shoot promo, referencing the fact that he was supposed to win the 1996 King of the Ring but didn't because he was being punished for the curtain call incident (he even called Hall and Nash by name) and blaming Jim Ross for being the one who punished him (this promo is where The Game nickname originated). Dave says it was a really good promo and that Triple H has been pretty good on the mic for a year or so now and WWF is finally going full-speed ahead with pushing him as a main event star. Otherwise, Dave just recaps all the matches.
WATCH: Triple H/Jim Ross sit-down interview
  • All of the wrestlers in AJPW were given raises recently, which was Misawa's way to thank them for staying loyal to him during the behind-the-scenes power struggle over the company after Giant Baba's death. Reportedly, at one point the power struggle got so bad that Misawa threatened to leave the company and take the roster with him and start a new promotion, and about 2/3 of the wrestlers were reportedly willing to walk with him. Dave says that if Misawa and 2/3 of the AJPW roster left to form their own company, they would likely have no trouble getting a TV deal and obviously, it would be devastating to AJPW (we're about a year away still but that ends up being exactly what happens).
  • Things aren't all golden for Misawa though. For starters, he's been criticized for not really focusing on long-term booking and has already blown through big money title matches against Vader, Kobashi, and Kawada in quick succession. There's also an issue with Stan Hansen. Basically, Misawa has pretty much phased Hansen out and decided not to use him much anymore because he's old and not really any good in the ring these days. Not using Hansen is what allowed Misawa to free up enough money to give everyone raises (AJPW business is still down, so the money isn't coming from that). The issue here is that Hansen basically had a handshake agreement with Baba that he would have a job for life with AJPW, and a handshake deal with Baba has long been considered by most people to be more binding than an actual contract. But with Baba dead, Misawa doesn't appear to be sticking with that deal and is only wanting to use Hansen on special occasions.
  • Dave offhandedly wonders why New Japan doesn't have a TV deal in the U.S. Obviously, there's a language barrier and NJPW on TV here in America would probably only draw a small, fringe audience of hardcore fans. But when you look at other sports channels here, you see things like Australian Rules football, obscure soccer games, and other fringe foreign sports. And they're all over smaller TV channels here. Considering how hot wrestling is these days, Dave thinks NJPW on TV would do decent enough ratings to make it worth it for a small American channel (it only took 15 years or so, but AXS finally made it happen).
  • At the latest NJPW show, they had a battle royal which saw the in-ring debut of 19-year-old Katsuyori Shibata, who is a second-generation wrestler and the son of recently retired NJPW referee Katsuhisa Shibata.
  • Kurt Angle won the Power Pro Wrestling world title this past week in Memphis. Power Pro crowds have been pretty lukewarm on Angle's 70s-style babyface character but they popped big for the title change.
WATCH: Kurt Angle wins Power Pro world title
  • ECW caught a lot of heat this week for a tasteless promo that Joel Gertner cut about the recent death of John F. Kennedy Jr. (who died in a plane crash in the ocean a week or so before this). Gertner's promo included jokes about the size of JFK Jr.'s "cockpit" and joked that the plane crashed because he was having a mid-air threesome with the other 2 women on the plane. He also joked about Ted Kennedy's drinking and his 1969 Chappaquiddick incident (google it) and ended the promo by saying, if JFK Jr. could talk right now, he'd say "glub glub glub." The promo aired on most of the TV shows, though it was edited out of the NYC syndicated show. But when the heat came down, ECW pointed the blame at Gertner and tried to distance themselves from it. On the ECW website, they had a statement saying, "We here at ECWwrestling.com apologize to anyone who was offended by Joel's tasteless remarks on the TV show." Heyman later admitted to scripting this ahead of time, trying to get heel heat for Gertner and trying to get some publicity as they build towards the TNN show, but says he realized it may have crossed the line. Dave talks about all the wrestling fans who were so offended when Craig Kilborn joked about Owen Hart's death and says this is no different, except Kilborn only told one joke, whereas Gertner made repeated JFK Jr. jokes during a long 5-minute promo.
  • Axl Rotten, Chris Candido, and Tammy Sytch all posted notes on their websites, talking about their drug issues and trying to get back into ECW's good graces. Axl Rotten was basically begging for his job back (I guess he was recently fired, I may have missed it) and said he fell off the wagon after his grandmother's death but saw getting fired as a wake-up call and thanked Heyman for alerting him to how bad his problem had gotten and vowed he was clean now. Candido and Sytch basically did the same thing, saying they're clean and hoping to come back to ECW soon also. Candido has been telling people Sytch is pregnant but Dave says it's hard to know whether that's true or not because at one point in WWF, she missed a show and later claimed she'd had a miscarriage, but when WWF asked for proof (hospital records, doctor's note, anything), she couldn't provide any evidence, which was one of the main reasons they fired her. Anyway, Candido and Sytch have been talking about enrolling in college and Heyman has since made that a condition of their return. He wants them to prove that they're enrolled in college and attempting to make something of their lives outside of wrestling before he'll bring them back.
  • The woman who appeared with Danny Doring at the latest ECW PPV has been wrestling on the indies under the name Angelica. She has worked indie shows with the Hardy Boyz and has even trained with them and is reportedly a pretty good wrestler. She's making $100 per show with ECW but has to provide her own transportation and cover her own hotels. So basically, she's not making shit (once again, that would be Lita, paying her dues).
  • WCW Injury Report: Hulk Hogan suffered a knee injury in his tag match with Sid Vicious and Nash on Nitro last week. It happened basically on the first real move of the match and he was noticeably immobile (more than usual, anyway) for the rest of the match. David Finlay suffered a severe leg injury at a house show, having a piece of table slice through his leg so deep that you could see the bone and it severed some tendons. He was bleeding like crazy and needed surgery and it's thought to possibly be a career-ender (it wasn't, but he was out for about 5 months and from what I read, nearly lost the use of his leg, so yeah it was bad). And Konnan has a concussion and neck injury from one of the ICP guys (Shaggy, if you're curious) doing a leg drop on him and landing with his butt right on Konnan's head.
WATCH: Vampiro vs. Konnan (Shaggy legdrop on Konnan at the end)
  • Speaking of Konnan, he was arrested as he got off the plane in San Diego last week on felony charges of threatening a flight attendant during the flight. He was released the next morning on bond, Dave has no other details (I don't think this ever really comes back up again so I have no idea what becomes of this).
  • There had been plans for Arn Anderson to return to the ring as part of a Four Horsemen angle but he was unable to get cleared by doctors so that has been scrapped and he will be remaining retired.
  • Master P is already done with WCW. The wrestlers who were part of his group (Konnan, Mysterio, etc.) will form their own, new "jobber group." (That becomes the Filthy Animals)
  • Ted Dibiase had a speaking deal at a church in Denver this week and was very critical of wrestling. He called the WWF "pure pornography" and said he can't believe parents would let their children watch it. He says he feels sorry for anyone who looks up to Steve Austin as their hero because he mocks a famous Biblical verse. He also talked about WCW and said it's not as bad. He said he still works for them backstage but he keeps seeing women in less and less clothing and feels they're drifting in the same direction as WWF and if it keeps happening, he may not work for them anymore.
  • An indie wrestler named Shark Boy has been working for a couple of years and has developed somewhat of a cult-following, especially among fellow wrestlers who think he's just great. Anyway, he signed a developmental deal with WCW.
  • Chris Jericho's last WCW match took place at a house show in Peoria, IL. Jericho teamed with Eddie Guerrero against Mysterio and Kidman and before the match, he said he'd leave WCW if he got pinned. Of course, he did. After the match, they all 4 hugged in the ring and Jericho was near-tears. Mysterio got the crowd to chant "Jericho" which led to him getting on the mic and saying he was overwhelmed by the response...........but then said Peoria still sucks. Classic Jericho.
  • On TV this week, Buff Bagwell came out in black face and cut a promo imitating Ernest Miller, which some felt was racist (ya think?). Backstage, Miller was legitimately furious about it and it became a tense situation (these 2 end up getting into a backstage fight pretty soon).
  • Hollywood Reporter magazine had a small story about an upcoming WCW movie in the works. It will star David Arquette. People who have read the script say it's awful. Rose McGowan plays a Nitro Girl-type character. Several WCW wrestlers will appear in the flick.
  • There have been reports from San Antonio media outlets that Shawn Michaels was involved in a road rage incident where he allegedly pulled a gun on a motorist who cut him off (I have never heard this story and it's never mentioned again so who knows).
  • The wrestling documentary, tentatively titled Hittin' The Mat, is scheduled to come out in October. It mostly focuses on Mick Foley, Jake Roberts, and Terry Funk. A few weeks back, they were filming footage at Mick Foley's house and they re-watched the match between him and Rock at Royal Rumble, with Mick seeing his children's reaction to it for the first time and he was said to be stunned by how much his kids were affected.
  • Chris Jericho did a radio interview and was asked about his future plans in WWF. He denied rumors that he would be joining DX or that he would be revealed as the person behind GTV. When asked about being the Millennium Man that they've been doing a countdown for, he didn't deny it. Dave says that's because the countdown is indeed for Jericho. Also in the interview, when asked what he would do differently if he was booking WCW, Jericho said he would immediately do Benoit vs. Hogan for the title next week and make Benoit the champ because he's ready for it. He said he first began thinking aout leaving WCW last year when they scrapped his planned feud with Goldberg.
  • Droz suffered a stinger in a match last week and missed a few shows (he suffers a more permanent stinger in a couple of months).
  • Jesse Ventura is continuing to catch flak for being involved in wrestling again, and in interviews, they've been grilling him about how much money he's actually making and he's been getting very defensive about it.
  • Debra McMichael confirmed in an online chat that she is dating Steve Austin.
  • Tammy Sytch went on her website and claimed she'd been talking to Vince McMahon to give him information to help in the lawsuit against Sable. Jim Ross went on the WWF website and denied it, saying Sytch hasn't spoken to McMahon anytime recently about Sable or anything else and that she's lying.
  • While he's been out recovering from knee surgery, Mick Foley has finished writing his autobiography and hopes to have it out before the end of the year. He's hoping for "Blood & Sweatsocks" to be the title.
MONDAY: WWF announces plans to go public, Observer Hall of Fame voting, WWF trying to sign the Dudley Boyz, and more...
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2018.04.25 08:16 Arcus_Chambers [EVENT] Philippine's 2020 Presidential Election, Presidential Candidates Biography 2nd part

Manuel "Mar" Araneta Roxas II
Timeline Description
Early Life and Background Manuel "Mar" Araneta Roxas II was born on May 13, 1957, in Manila, Philippines, to Judy Araneta of Bago, Negros Occidental, and Gerardo Roxas (1924–1982) of Capiz. Roxas' father was a Senator (1963–1972) and one of the grandchildren of Manuel Roxas, the first President of the Third Philippine Republic (1946–48), and Trinidad de Leon. The couple married in 1955. He has two siblings namely Maria Lourdes or Ria, married to Augusto Ojeda and mother of three and the late Congressman Gerardo "Dinggoy" Roxas, Jr. (1960–1993). Roxas took up Alternative Learning System then attended the prestigious Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia, majoring in finance and earning a Bachelor of Science degree in economics in 1979. After graduation, he worked for seven years as an investment banker in New York City, and became an assistant vice president of the New York-based Allen & Company. Following the 1985 announcement by President Ferdinand Marcos of a snap election, Roxas took leave of absence to join the presidential campaign of Corazon Aquino. In September 1986, President Corazon Aquino went to the United States. Roxas was one of those who organized a series of investment round-table discussions with the American business community. From 1986 onwards, Roxas visited the Philippines more frequently and proposed to Allen & Company to set up a branch in Asia, specifically in the Philippines; later his superiors agreed. In 1991, he was stationed in the Philippines with North Star Capitals, Inc. which took public the Jollibee fast food restaurant chain. In the United States, he participated in the first financing for Discovery Channel and Tri-Star Pictures.
Political Career Roxas is the Liberal Party's standard bearer in the 2016 presidential election. On July 31, 2015, at an event dubbed as "A Gathering of Friends", Roxas formally accepted his party's nomination after he was officially endorsed by President Benigno Aquino III in the presence of their political allies at the Club Filipino, where Roxas had announced his decision to withdraw from the 2010 presidential election and give way to Aquino's presidential bid. Aquino also announced his candidacy there on September 9, 2009. In an emotional speech, Roxas declared that he would not deviate from the "straight path" initiated by Aquino in the fight against poverty and corruption. On the same day, Roxas formally launched his campaign website. In a speech during which he paid tribute to his late grandfather, President Manuel Roxas, his late father, Senator Gerardo Roxas and late brother, Rep. Dinggoy Roxas, Roxas declared that he would not betray the reforms initiated by the Aquino administration and vowed to continue Aquino's "Daang Matuwid" agenda: "I believe that this is not just about me or PNoy. The "Daang Matuwid" is about the dreams of every Filipino. As the President said: It is worth fighting for. It is worth sacrificing for, and dying for if need be. The Straight Path transcends me and PNoy; it is a Filipino ideal that has been there long before we were born, and will remain long after we are gone. History is challenging us to live up to these principles; to continue on this journey; to fight for our dreams as a nation. Mr. President, during your SONA on Monday, you said, "This is only the beginning; it is only the beginning of the great story of the Filipino people." Today, with all my sincerity, with all my will and with all my strength, I am answering the call of the "Daang Matuwid". We will fight on. I am Mar Roxas and I accept the challenge of our Bosses: to continue, expand and fight for the "Daang Matuwid"
Personal Life Roxas was previously in a relationship with former beauty queen Maricar Zaldarriaga, with whom he has a son, Paolo Roxas. In 2002, he met Korina Sanchez, a news anchor from ABS-CBN. In the April 25, 2009, episode of the ABS-CBN noontime show Wowowee where Sanchez appeared as a guest co-host alongside Willie Revillame, Sanchez and Roxas announced their engagement. Sanchez took a leave of absence from her duties at ABS-CBN on May 2009. They married on October 27, 2009 at a ceremony in Quezon City, where Roxas' former running mate in the 2010 election, then-Senator (later President) Benigno Aquino III, was one of the couple's primary wedding sponsors. The Manila Philharmonic Orchestra and the Philippine Madrigal Singers provided the music during the wedding. Other notable performers included Basil Valdez, Robert Sena, and Jamie Rivera. The couple owns a black labrador retriever and two schnauzer dogs. As of 2014, he has a declared net worth of PHP 202.08 million.
Political Policies
Social Policies ** Description**
Education In July 2007, Roxas filed several bills in his first through the creation of a “people’s fund” for education that will help close the resource gaps in teachers’ training and salaries, infrastructure needs like classrooms and school buildings, among others. He also sought to increase the measly salaries of public school teachers, he filed a bill to mandate the upgrade of the government salary schedule under the Salary Standardization law every four years, or whenever necessary, to the prevailing cost of living index. For the benefit of students in private schools, he filed a proposed Pre-Need Code, which seeks to tighten-up the regulation of pre-need companies. He has also consistently pushed for increases in the budget of the Department of Education.
Energy policy Senator Mar Roxas, then chairman of the committee on economic affairs, trade and commerce, sought amendments to the power industry reform law to allow large electricity consumers to directly connect with state-owned National Power Corporation or any independent power producers to supply their power requirements. He also supports the use of biofuels. He believes that it will definitely reduce the country's dependence on imported oil once biofuels manufacturers begin operations in the country. Recently, he urged the trade, energy and finance departments to help ease the impact of rising petroleum prices on consumers. “I urge the three departments to plan and calibrate our responses [to rising oil prices] so as not to undermine [the] gains in the economy and financial markets,” said Roxas, chairman of the committee on trade and commerce. He said wage earners had to tighten their belts some more each time petroleum prices rose, and in particular the prices of cooking gas. “Any increase in the prices of liquefied petroleum gas and kerosene upsets the household budget for food and other essential needs,” he said.
Health care Roxas' position on health care has been highlighted with his cheaper medicines bill that would reduce the prices of medicine by allowing local pharmaceutical companies to manufacture drugs whose patents had already expired, by expanding the parallel imports of commonly used drugs, and by aggressively promoting the production and consumption of generic drugs. Under the bill, the President is empowered to impose price ceilings on medicines on the recommendation of the secretaries of health and of trade and industry in times of calamity, and if there is widespread price manipulation of any drugs. His bill also calls for the creation of a Drug Prices Regulation Board and the strengthening of the Bureau of Food and Drugs (BFAD). Although there has been controversy regarding his authorship of the law and his actual positions. He has also been accused of watering down the cheaper medicines act, and is actually in support of mulch-nationals. But on October 9, 2007, he dropped his objection to the version of the House of Representatives which proposes setting up of market controls and conceded that the sponsors of a similar bill in the House correctly anticipated that big drug companies could manipulate and prevent drugstores from selling imported cheaper medicines. He said the use of price controls could come in if market competition from cheaper medicines from abroad and generic drugs do not work and make medicines affordable to the public.
Human rights He expressed his deep concern over what he termed as “the rising tide of human-rights abuses” in the Philippines as exemplified by the abduction of five ordinary citizens belonging to the Union of the Masses for Democracy and Justice (UMDJ). Roxas said that because of these incidents, well-established international organizations and institutions such as the London-based Amnesty International, Paris-based Reporters Sans Frontieres (Reporters Without Borders) and officials of the US government now hold the Philippines accountable for these apparent failures of governance. He also expressed his concern over the possibility that there is a “shadow government operating in the deep background without the knowledge of Palace officials.” According to Roxas, the Filipino people are entitled to forthright answers on how the abduction came about and who are the people behind it. He also filed Senate Bill No. 110 which would decriminalize libel in the Philippines and limit the venue of filing libel suits. He believes in the right of individuals to be protected from unethical and irresponsible journalism, but for him, imprisonment is not a just penalty for such. He stresses that, civil damages are enough penalty and deterrence, considering the present economic situation of journalists.
Terrorism He voted against the Human Security Act of 2007’s passage in the Senate because he believed that the fight against terror requires urgent operational reforms over measures that could impair civil liberties.
Death penalty He opposed the revival of death penalty in the Philippines through execution. He said that the revival is not a permanent solution for a successful campaign against crimes.
Divorce In an interview by Mel Tiangco on the GMA program Wanted: President on January 31, 2016, Roxas said that he is among the 40% of Filipinos who does not favor divorce during a Social Weather Stations poll in 2015, saying: "For me, the family is the center of each person's life, so we should do everything to ensure that the family remains intact and I think that's our country's foundation.
LGBT rights and same-sex marriage While being interviewed on the GMA program Wanted: President, Roxas said that he is not in favor on the legalization of same-sex marriage as a public policy, saying: "As a public policy, I’m not in favor [of same sex-marriage]. Although I have relatives who I'm close to and have partners and I respect them, I love them, I accept them wholeheartedly." However, according to his wife Korina Sanchez, Roxas is supportive of LGBT rights and is in favor of a bill against gender and sexual orientation discrimination.
Economic policy Description
Philippine entry into the Trans-Pacific Partnership Roxas disagrees with the Aquino administration's moves to join the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade agreement. Rather than entering a bad deal, not joining the partnership would be better than experiencing the adverse effects of the entry of cheap agricultural products on Philippine farmers. More developed countries in the TPP enjoy comparative advantages in terms of agricultural technology and state subsidies with which the agricultural industry of the Philippines is at a disadvantage.
Comprehensive Agrarian Reform Program In 1988, Republic Act No. 6657, otherwise known as the Comprehensive Agrarian Reform Law (CARL) was signed into law and became the legal basis for the implementation of the Comprehensive Agrarian Reform Program (CARP). It is an act instituting a CARP with the aim of promoting social justice and industrialization. RA 6657 also provided the mechanism for its implementation. It was signed by President Corazon C. Aquino on June 10. Roxas stressed the need to improve on the Comprehensive Agrarian Reform Program, saying it has not been as successful as it was hoped to be since it has not alleviated poverty. He said that the CARP expires by 2008 and by law there is a need to review it, and, "as in life, what may have been appropriate 20 years ago may not be appropriate anymore today." "So, if CARP is to be continued, it must be in a different form with more resources. If it is not continued then we must put a different tool in place to alleviate poverty in the countryside," Roxas said. For Roxas, the CARP, as it has been implemented so far, clearly has not led to greater income and opportunities for those who are supposed to have been its beneficiaries. CARP was designed as a wealth redistributive program, and land was the focus because it was thought at the time that wealth came from land, he said. But land in and of itself does not produce wealth, it requires inputs, support, farm to market roads, fair trading, he also said.
Pre-need industry Roxas filed Senate Bill No. 105 which seeks to address the absence of a statute that regulates the pre-need industry by establishing the Pre-Need Industry Act of 2007 to govern the operations of firms which issue or sell pre-need plans or similar contracts and investments.
SMEs Roxas filed a bill that provides a package of liberal incentives to micro, small and medium enterprises through amendments to the Magna Carta for Small Enterprises (Republic Act 6977) He said that the micro, small and medium enterprises comprise 99.6 percent of local businesses and employ 70 percent of the Philippines' total work force. But he noted that their full potential has yet to be achieved, as they currently contribute only about 30 percent to the national economy. “We want to reward our small enterprises for their contributions to the economy by ensuring their access to credit and support services. This is about giving our Filipino companies the chance to realize their potential,” Roxas said. The salient provisions of the bill he filed include. Modifying the classifications of enterprises in terms of size of assets: micro—below P3 million; small—P3 million to P15 million; and medium—above P15 million. Mandating the creation of a six-year MSME Development Plan.Adjusting the structure and functions of the MSME Development Council to better respond to the needs of the industries. Increasing the authorized capital stock of Small Business Corp. from P5 billion to P10 billion, and putting it under the regulation of the Bangko Sentral ng Pilipinas. Increasing the mandatory credit allocation of banks to MSMEs from a total of 8 percent to 10 percent of loanable funds.Roxas, as Senate Committee on Trade and Commerce chair and primary author of R. A. 9501, welcomed on May 22, 2008, the early and historical signing of the law by Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo: “After this much-awaited law has taken effect, I look forward to the executive’s proper implementation of this law that would give our small entrepreneurs more tools to grow their businesses and employ more workers.”
Taxation He junked a plan of the Bureau of Internal Revenue to impose a steep hike in the common carrier’s tax on public utility vehicles in favor of a gradual increase to soften the impact on bus and jeepney operators. He said the 2,600% tax increase is too much and will likely pass on the cost to commuters. Roxas said, “if there is a need for an increase, it should not be drastic. There is a principle that any hike in the tax should be gradual, that will enable the bus and jeepney operators to adjust to the changes." He also filed Senate Bill No. 103 which would exempt minimum wage earners in the private sector and government workers in Salary Grades 1 to 3, amending certain provisions of Republic Act 8424, otherwise known as the National Internal Revenue Code of 1997, as amended. He believes that the minimum wage earners can no longer afford to be taxed and to be placed in the income tax process in the same manner as higher-earning employees. Roxas started a campaign against the value-added tax, although he voted in favor of the law when it was being deliberated in the Senate.
Foreign policies Description
Iraq Roxas filed a resolution last July 31, 2007 asking the Department of Foreign Affairs to look into the OFW trafficking issue. He asked the Department of Labor and Employment to investigate the recruitment of Filipino workers by such firms as First Kuwaiti International in light of findings by the Department of Foreign Affairs that the ban on entry to the war-torn country was being circumvented. "The continued recruitment of Filipino workers to Iraq, despite the government's deployment ban, is alarming, especially since they are being made to work long hours under extremely stressful conditions," Roxas said in a statement. The request came in the wake of reports that certain firms outside the country are recruiting private security personnel for posting in Iraq. Roxas had also been given a briefing by Special Envoy Roy Cimatu on the situation of Filipinos in Iraq following a "fact-finding mission" ordered by President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo last July. Based on the briefing, the number of Overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) in Iraq has declined from 7,600 in 2004 to 6,647 as of this 2007. Roxas said that the number is still considerable, given that the ban has been in place since 2004. He stressed that something had to be done to prevent Filipinos from venturing into dangerous areas and the onus fell both on the government and recruitment firms like First Kuwaiti International to take action.
Israel-Lebanon conflict During the Israel-Hezbollah conflict last 2006, Roxas expressed sadness that statements of some Philippine diplomatic officials tended to show that the one-country team approach seemed to be ignored in dealing with the crisis. He said that the government’s contingency plan to evacuate thousands of Overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) caught in the Israeli-Hezbollah conflict in Lebanon could be implemented smoothly if Philippine officials would hew closely to the “team one-country approach” that is mandated by a policy under Republic Act 8042, the Migrant Workers Act of 1995. This policy means that in all diplomatic posts, the ambassador shall act as the head of the team and that all attaches from different offices and departments must follow his or her lead. He also asked about the government’s reintegration plan for returning OFWs. He noted that most workers left their savings and belongings behind and must now start from scratch in rebuilding their lives. “It is the government’s role to make sure that these workers who have been driven out of work by a war not of their own making, would get the assistance and support that they deserve,” he stressed. He also condemns what he calls "Israeli Invasion" of Lebanon he acknowledges that Lebanon has broken rules but he stressed that "Israel should be a nation that knows better."
Jejomar Binay
Timeline Description
Early life Jejomar Binay was born in Paco, Manila. The name "Jejomar" is a portmanteau of Jesus, Joseph, and Mary. He is the younger of two children of Diego "Jego" Medrano Binay, a librarian from Bauan, Batangas, a school teacher from Cabagan, Isabela. He had an older sibling who died before he was born making him the only one who survived childhood. After being orphaned at the age of nine, he was adopted by his uncle, Ponciano Binay. He helped the poor and needy during his early teens. Being the kuya of his family, he helped them study and get jobs.
Education Binay finished basic education at the Philippine Normal College Training Department and graduated from the University of the Philippines Preparatory School. He went to the University of the Philippines Diliman for college and graduated in 1962 with a degree in Political Science. He continued on to the UP College of Law and graduated in 1967 then passed the bar examinations in 1968. He got a master's degree from the University of Sto. Tomas in 1980 and a master's degree in National Security Administration from the National Defense College of the Philippines. He took up Strategic Economic Program in the Center for Research and Communication. He enrolled in a Non-Resident and General Staff Course at the Command and General Staff College, AFP and joined the seniors executive fellow program at the John F. Kennedy School of Government in Harvard University. He was awarded a doctorate in Public Administration (Honoris Causa) from the Polytechnic University of the Philippines, and Doctor of Humanities (Honoris Causa) from the Laguna State Polytechnic University. In 1993, he received a diploma in Land Use Program from the University of the Philippines. In 1996, he finished the Top Management Program at the Asian Institute of Management in Bali, Indonesia. He also took up the Joint Services and Command Staff course in the AFP. He also has a master's degree in Management at the Philippine Christian University and a diploma in Environmental and Natural Resources Management from the University of the Philippines Open University.
Political Career Binay initially announced his bid for the presidency for the 2010 elections during his 66th birthday celebration at the Makati City Hall on November 11, 2008 but abandoned his bid in order to give way to the reelection bid of former President Estrada. He eventually became Estrada’s running mate and ran under the banner of PDP-Laban (Partido Demokratiko Pilipino-Lakas ng Bayan). He initially showed a relatively poor performance in the public opinion polls, trailing behind Senators Loren Legarda and Mar Roxas, who was heavily favored to win the race, but his standings improved as the elections approached, overtaking Legarda and tying with Roxas in the final survey conducted. He went on to narrowly defeat Roxas in the election by 700,000 votes. Roxas filed an election protest before the Presidential Electoral Tribunal of the Supreme Court, which is still currently pending. Binay took his oath as vice president on June 30, 2010, becoming the first local government official to do so. He was appointed as chairman of the Housing Urban Development Coordinating Council (HUDCC) by President Noynoy Aquino, the same position held by his predecessor, Vice-President Noli de Castro and Presidential Adviser for OFW Concerns. He also heads the Task Force OFW which helps Overseas Filipino Workers who were maltreated by their employers to return to the Philippines with the assistance of the government. There are numerous corruption allegations against Binay dating from 2014 to the present time.
Political Positions/Platform Description
Plans Vice President Binay disclosed his platform for his 2016 Presidential bid during his speech in the Integrated Bar of the Philippines in Cebu City on March 20, 2015. He aims to improve the situation in the state colleges and universities, public health hospitals and clinics, police stations, and mass housing. An increase in both salaries and benefits of public school teachers and health workers, members of the police force, and other public servants was also promised. In his plans include a redesigning and re-engineering of the transportation system of the country, as well as prioritizing the building of more infrastructures and the creation of more jobs. He proposes to change the constitution to boost the economy, and speed up the country's development. In early July of the same year, Binay expressed UNA's (his party list) platform for in a speech. "What UNA and the citizens are expressing is that we're tired of poverty, we're tired of unemployment, we're tired of criminals and illegal drugs. We're tired of the lack of basic services...we're struggling under a numb and failed government."
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2018.04.24 19:11 patriotsfan543 2018 /r/MLBDraft Mod Mock 1.0

Hey everyone, so we as the moderators decided to put together our own mock with write-ups!. Unfortunately due to the fact that we decided to include the write ups and we all lead busy lives we had delay after delay. So what this means is this mock is out of date as we did it about 3 weeks ago. But even with this, I felt like I should still post as the write-ups can make it easier for you guys to learn a little more about the kids.
1 Detroit Tigers: LHP Shane McClanahan, South Florida
The Tigers have their pick of the litter in this very strong pitching class. They take the best lefty in the class. McClanahan has a 3.22 ERA s far on the year, and has 84 strikeouts through 50 IP. His draft stock has taken a pretty big hit and it now seems like Mize is the favorite to go 1.1.
2 San Francisco Giants: RHP Casey Mize, Auburn
The Giants get their decision basically made for them, Mize has been discussed a lot about going 1-1 and very well may. At Auburn so far Mize has a 2.00 ERA and 7-1 record, along with 86 K over 63 IP. Mize also tossed a no-hitter back in March. Giants would be happy with Mize falling to them.
3 Philadelphia Phillies: 3B Nolan Gorman, O'Connor HS (AZ)
Gorman goes pretty high here compared to the consensus, but there is a lot to like about him. He is a lefty hitter with a lot of power in the bat. He displayed his power in summer ball. There are a few concerns with Gorman and that is he may not stick at 3B and there are some holes in his swing so he may strikeout at a higher rate. For these reasons he may drop from here, but the power is undeniable.
4 Chicago White Sox: RHP Ethan Hankins , Forsyth Central HS (GA)
Probably the best prep pitcher in this class, Ethan Hankins is taken by the White Sox to supplement that already stacked farm. Hankins had an injury scare(shoulder) earlier this spring, but is back on the mound and seems to be healthy. Hankins has a good frame, standing at 6’6’ 200 lbs, and his fastball can reach the high-90s. Might even go higher than 4 come draft day.
5 Cincinnati Reds: LHP Matt Liberatore, Mountain Ridge HS (AZ)
The best lefty prep pitcher of the class is Matthew Liberatore and he plays in the same state as Nolan Gorman, not too far from each other. Liberatore has a three pitch mix: FB, CB, CH and all three are quality pitches, a rarity from a prep pitcher. He sits in the low-90s, but can reach mid-90s pretty often. Liberatore is an interesting prospect because he’s a high schooler, but there isn’t a ton of projection there. Could rise through the ranks pretty quickly.
6 New York Mets: RHP Brady Singer, Florida
The Mets could potentially get a pretty big steal here at #6. Brady Singer was the consensus #1 pick for 2018 dating back to last year, but the consensus has changed. It’s not entirely Singer’s fault, the prospects ahead of him have really jumped out. Singer has had a pretty solid spring, albeit with a few clunkers in there, but even when he struggles he still racks up the K’s. Singer could definitely go higher than 6, but the Mets would love if he falls here.
7 San Diego Padres: OF Travis Swaggerty, South Alabama
Besides having an 80 grade name, Swaggerty has some other tools. Swaggerty is a junior at South Alabama and is having a solid year. He has a .314 BA with 9 HR. Swaggerty has the speed and power combination that everyone loves and projects to be a top of the order bat. 7th may be a bit high for Swaggerty, but he’s having a solid spring so far.
8 Atlanta Braves: C Joey Bart, Georgia Tech
Joey Bart is by far the best catching prospect in this draft and maybe the best catching prospect in a while. He is hitting .357 with 11 home runs at Georgia Tech so far this season. He has the bat, but he also has the defense to go along with it. Despite being rather large for a catcher at 6’3”/225 he can move well behind the plate and has a cannon of an arm. Braves would love to get him here after all the top pitchers come off the board.
9 Oakland Athletics: 2B Nick Madrigal, Oregon State
Nick Madrigal could end up going higher than 9, but an injury suffered early in the season has kept him out of action.
10 Pittsburgh Pirates: LHP Ryan Rolison, Mississippi
Rolison is a the 2nd best lefty in this draft and is going to an organization with a strong affinity for pitching. With the right adjustments, Rolison could be the #2 guy on your staff.
11 Baltimore Orioles: SS Nander de Sedas, Montverde Academy
De Sedas is a switch-hitting SS with a good hitting ability. Problem a lot of people have with him is his ability(or lack thereof) to stick at SS and he might have to move to 3B. Rankings have been all over the place with him, some have him top 10 and some have him outside top 50.
12 Toronto Blue Jays: 1B Triston Casas, American Heritage HS
In the past, drafting a 1B this early was considered to be a bad pick, however with the success of guys like Freddie Freeman, Bellinger, etc, teams are now more willing to take a chance. Casas has great power from the left side, perhaps the best of all the high school players in this draft. While he’s likely a 1B only guy, if he keeps hitting it won’t matter.
13 Miami Marlins: SS Brice Turang, Santiago HS
The Marlins are getting a potential steal with Turang at 13. He’s got extremely strong tools that will make any scout dream big, all while staying at short.
14 Seattle Mariners: OF Tristan Pompey, Kentucky
Pompey has a lot of raw tools at his disposal and there’s a lot to like about this kid. He is hitting .349 on the season at Kentucky. I think Mid-1st round is a good prediction as of now for him.
15 Texas Rangers: 3B Alec Bohm, Wichita State
Alec Bohm at 15 is a dream for the Rangers. Bohm can just hit, and he can do it with good defense at 3B. Anyone who drafts him is getting a solid player, and he’ll move up quickly too. Recent mocks have him as high as #2.
16 Tampa Bay Rays: RHP Kumar Rocker, North Oconee HS (GA)
The Rays are getting a prep arm with a lot of upside with Rocker. They’re saying he’s a tough start which makes it seem a little unlikely the Rays will pick him, however. Rocker is a little raw but when he harnesses it, watch out.
17 Los Angeles Angels: RHP Jackson Kowar, Florida
Kowar could be 1 of 3 Gators to be drafted in the 1st round. Kowar has a 2.70 ERA so far this season as the Gators’ Saturday starter. He sits in low 90s and has a very good changeup and his curve is his third pitch that is developing.
18 Kansas City Royals: RHP Mason Denaburg, Merritt Island HS (FL)
Denaburg is a prep pitcher who sits in low to mid 90s with a plus curveball and an average change. Was shut down 2 weeks ago with biceps tendinitis, but they don’t believe it’s a serious issue. Can also play at Catcher, but is a better RHP.
19 St. Louis Cardinals: 1B Luken Baker, TCU
Unfortunately Luken Baker suffered a broken bone in his leg running the bases and is out for the forseeable future. His draft stock is going to tank and it could be a possibility he returns to TCU for his senior year.
20 Minnesota Twins: OF Jarred Kelenic, Waukesha West HS (WI)
Kelenic has been rumored to go 1-1 with the Tigers. Kelenic is a toolsy OF, but there are concerns whether or not he can stick to center. He has a good mix of contact and power. His speed is also no joke either.
21 Milwaukee Brewers: LHP Ryan Weathers, Loretto HS (TN)
Coming in at 6’2”, 225 lbs...Weathers is a big lefty. He has dominated the Tennessee HS baseball scene. He is a Vandy committ, but if he goes in 1st round seems like signability won’t be a huge issue.
22 Colorado Rockies: OF Trevor Larnach, Oregon State
Larnach is leading the Beavers in home runs with 12 on the season and is hitting a .341 clip. The lefty outfielder is having a good year...may be able to get himself in the mid-1st, but here seems to be where he’s been going in mocks.
23 New York Yankees: LHP Konnor Pilikington , Mississippi State
The Yankees love their college arms in the 1st round(Kaprielian, Schmidt) and if there is one thing their farm is lacking it is left-handed pitchers. Pilkington seems like a perfect fit here.
24 Chicago Cubs: 1B Greyson Jenista, Wichita State
Only behind fellow Shocker Alec Bohm, Jenista is 2nd on the team with a .311 avg and 2nd on the team behind Bohm again in home runs(7).
25 Arizona Diamondbacks: C Will Banfield, Brookwood HS (GA)
Banfield is pretty much the consensus #2 catcher behind Bart...may end up going higher due to position scarcity.
26 Boston Red Sox: RHP Carter Stewart
Carter Stewart has gotten rave reviews for his curveball; Baseball America has it at a 3,826 average RPM. His curveball might be one of the single best pitches of any potential draftee. He’s only a high school guy as well, so there’s a lot of projection still left.
27 Washington Nationals, LHP Tim Cate, UCONN
28 Houston Astros, SS Jeremy Eierman, Missouri State
29 Cleveland Indians, RHP Logan Gilbert, Stetson
30 Los Angeles Dodgers, 3B Jon India, Florida
32 Tampa Bay Rays(Comp for Alex Cobb), 1B Seth Beer, Clemson
32 Tampa Bay Rays(Comp for Drew Rasmussen), RHP Mike Vasil, BC High
31 Kansas City Royals(Comp for Lorenzo Cain) OF Joe Gray Jr., Hattiesburg HS
33 Kansas City Royals(Comp for Eric Hosmer), C Noah Naylor, Ontario
34 Cleveland Indians(Comp for Carlos Santana)RHP Sean Hjelle, Kentucky
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2018.03.04 17:34 Vannosaurus-REX My 2.3 year check up & story

I’ve been wanting to write my story down in better detail for a while now, and share some of my perspectives on things. People on here seemed to enjoy the post I made a while back that was about 100x shorter so I figured maybe you guys would enjoy this too.
Many people I know say they would never go out to eat alone. If that is where you’re at, let’s start by framing this entire story outside of your comfort zone. Dip your toes in the unknown for a minute! Here’s a glimpse at a different perspective.
“When the laws of the country contradict the laws of humanity, a true man must choose the laws of humanity… The philosopher is disobedient to cliches and to public opinion because he is obedient to reason and to mankind.” - Erich Fromm, On Disobedience
I started taking road trips by myself when I was sixteen to get away from my hometown, home life, and enjoy the beautiful splendors of the sea. I was bullied, suicidal, and dealing with a bunch of bullshit at school and home, so being able to get away for a while and ride waves two and a half hours away in coastal Rhode Island offered a much needed escape. This wasn’t a normal thing to do where I was from in Western Massachusetts. The term ‘surfing’ was probably mentioned once or twice over the course of the first 16 years of my life. It literally didn’t exist to us. I was (conversely) obsessed at an early age thanks to episodes of The Surfer’s Journal on cable TV, but I didn’t even get to try it until I was twelve and then not again for another four years when I was 16. Before that I would just pretend to do cutbacks on my skateboard in our driveway and get made fun of by my friends. When I did turn sixteen and started making solo, overnight road trips to the coast, it was the first time I’d stepped outside of my comfort zone and followed my own convictions in pursuit something that mattered to me, foregoing what was considered normal without anyone to come along or back me up. The reason I mention this is because people often ask me how it started, and it was really breaking this one societal norm that snowballed into my current lifestyle over time.
I merely did the math for gas and food, wondered if that was really all there was to it, and put the pedal to the floor.
During those early trips I was like a stumbling newborn puppy - getting lost in every way possible. This was before smartphones and even before I had a stand alone GPS. Did you know you could text “GOOGL” (46645) for directions from one place to another and you would get a stream of texts back detailing the route? That was a life saver. I remember sleeping at rest stops and getting “the knock” by police telling me of unspecific sketchy happenings that went on there at night. Locking myself out of my car and hitchhiking home with a correctional officer who changed the topic of conversation to an extremely unpleasant subject as soon as we started to merge on to the highway. Yes, that subject. But besides getting lost I also found myself in a lot of ways. Hours spent staring at the open road are the perfect backdrop for deep reflection and processing.
These solo road trips continued through college and beyond while I was working full time as an engineer. I preferred the car to a hotel because it made more sense than paying $60 or $80 for a bed to sleep in, plus it kind of felt like camping and waking up in a tent with windows. It only got more comfortable the longer I did it, learning about the wonders of zero degree sleeping bags, camping air mattresses, the best places to park and so on. The destinations spanned a majority of the east coast, from cruising around random cities on my BMX bike to to checking out beach towns with my bodyboard and later surfboard, as far west as Chicago and south as Outer Banks,North Carolina. It didn’t cost much, just food and gas at 30 mpg in my beater Honda.
Eventually I decided to move away from an office job that was killing me both mentally and physically and traverse the country to a place where I could work jobs I enjoyed in a warmer climate - jobs which would inevitably pay less. At age 25, this would be my first road trip lasting longer than a few days.
I underwent many of the same extremes I’d been through before - single digit temperatures at night testing the limits of my zero degree sleeping bag. Finding places to sleep in sketchy neighborhoods, and showering at truck stops. It wasn’t the most pleasant experience, but the monotony of ten hour days driving was offset by an overwhelming level of excitement to be doing something on my own, totally against the grain, bailing on a ‘solid’ career to pursue a lifestyle that suited me better. I don’t think I ever felt more in control of my own life than I did during that trip. It’s funny how in four years of engineering school and the twelve before that, they never once teach you how to be happy or find contentment in life. We’re supposed to just haphazardly figure it out on our own through trial and error. That’s why I've always gravitated towards the fields of philosophy and psychology. They allow you to take a more logical and scientific approach to the matter.
Eventually I landed in San Diego and went back to restaurant jobs and working at bike shops, jobs I knew I would enjoy which offered higher levels of physical activity and socialization. After a month of renting a room with some non-like minded housemates I decided I wanted to move closer to where I worked and surfed and I figured I would live in my Volkswagen Golf until I found a place. I was pretty clean cut, had money saved up and got along well with almost anybody. I couldn’t imagine it would take more than a couple weeks to find something.
That was when I learned the hard way that beginning June first it is virtually impossible to find a room to rent in certain beach communities of San Diego because the city floods with tourists causing the demand to sky rocket. Every room for rent ad I would reply to already had forty to fifty responses within the first hour or two, as a couple of the posters told me. One week of living in the car turned into two, which turned into three. I’d never lived in a vehicle in one location for this long before - it was foreign to me and a little nerve racking. But as the weeks ticked by things just got easier and easier. All the questions of “how would I do this or that” were answered in time, figuring out solutions to the problems as I went along. And at around the two week mark I noticed a definitive tipping of the scales - an emotional construct once occupied by worry was replaced with a newfound self confidence gained from overcoming the initial difficulties of permanent vehicle dwelling. The “mobile homeless” lifestyle that I had at the start kept secretive became something I had a hard time not bragging about any chance I got! I remember a specific instance one morning after heading to the local grocery store to use the restroom and buy my daily breakfast consisting of a yogurt with M&M’s, a banana and twenty ounce strawberry milk. I stood at the register trying excessively hard not to blurt out that I had just woken up in my car, which I sleep in every night and don’t pay any rent for. It was hilarious to me.
That’s when it started to hit me - it really is that easy.
And the upward spiral continued over the next five months that I lived in the Golf. It just gets easier the longer you do it. And it even goes beyond getting easier - you start to see some real benefits to the lifestyle, things that aren’t so obvious at first. Increased socialization, physical activity, welcomed inconveniences and a more healthy sleep schedule to name a few. I would typically wake up around 6 or 6:30 and be out of the neighborhood by 7 AM, because that’s when everyone seems to be up and about - jogging, walking their dogs, etc. So I was gone by then to help ensure I wouldn’t be caught. But what’s there to do at 7 AM when practically everywhere is closed? Well, not much, except for going to my favorite cafe and getting a bomb breakfast that I could easily afford since I wasn’t paying rent, and seeing a bunch of my friends there. After that I would go for an hour or two long surf before work, regardless of how bad the waves were, because I literally had nothing else to do. I was in the ocean exercising almost every single day, paddling around trying to catch waves on the shortboard I kept hidden under a dark blanket in my passenger seat - think of the positive implications this has for someone’s health! Not to mention committing twenty or thirty minutes every night to stretch or workout at the gym because I felt weird just going in and showering. See what I mean about promoting, or rather forcing a healthy lifestyle? There was really only one difficulty that was hard to get past; dating.
For a little while I had a girlfriend, but after we split it was a little bit discouraging dealing with that whole thing. On one hand it’s like, “well if they don’t like me in spite of my living circumstances then they aren’t the one any ways,” while on the other you realize that you’re probably just stacking the odds against yourself in a numbers game with no realistic likelihood of finding that perfect mate who checks all the boxes from day one. I mean even if it could happen in a handful of years, you have to consider the opportunities of personal growth you’re forgoing through failed relationships in favor of receiving little more than hard “No’s” for five or ten years of your life. Although I enjoyed the lifestyle for the most part, after five months of living in the car I happened to get the opportunity to rent a studio apartment about one hundred yards from the beach, forty feet from where I worked, at a very reasonable price and went for it. End car life and enter a lifestyle beyond my means.
The apartment brought an end to the required physical activity and healthy sleep schedule. All of the inconveniences were made more convenient so I no longer had any reason to do much of anything at all. I reminisced how after work I used to sit in the front seat of my Golf for about thirty minutes while I winded down on my phone - and it would only ever be thirty minutes because sitting on the side of the road for that long gets old with cars whizzing past and so forth. After that I would go and do something - anything, absolutely anything. But something. The very first day I got my studio apartment I went home after work, lied down on the floor for about four hours and wasted away on the internet on my phone. I started surfing about one third as often in spite of living one block from the beach because if the conditions weren’t optimal, why not just go back to bed? The battle against the sedentary lifestyle I had waged during the office years had begun once again.
It’s not to say that you can’t be healthy and active while living a traditional lifestyle - rather that living that way lends itself to laziness. The fact of the matter is that although you can, you probably won’t, because you don’t have to. And that's where the sedentary lifestyle of the entire developed world sinks its teeth and grabs hold. Through the primary mediums of television and computers, and to lesser degrees automobiles and automatic everything’s (garage door openers, dishwashers, washing machines, etc.), we are bound to our sedentary, anti-social lifestyles, each of us being stripped of so many of the beautiful experiences that life has to offer, taking about ten years off of our lifespan and contributing to a host of ailments as well.
Although I’m isolated from most of those things in my van, I’m honest enough to admit that I still struggle to pull myself away from passive forms of entertainment and social media found on my smartphone. It’s truly a disease, and one worth actively fighting! One thing to note is that although at face value everything about living in a van seems like it would be better than living in a car, now is a good time to mention that it really isn’t. Without going into too much detail, living in a car is actually more enjoyable than living in a van for the same unexpected reasons that living in a van is actually more enjoyable than living in an apartment. It’s kind of like a continuum, you just have to find which speed fits you. For example - in the car, in a city where sleeping in a vehicle is illegal, I never slept in, which meant always going to bed early. Circadian rhythm, productive mornings, blah blah blah. Now, in the van, I sleep in as late as I want all the time and go to bed whenever I’ve finished battling the internet addiction because with the privacy of a van there’s no requirement for waking up early. It gets pretty hot around eight or nine AM in the summer, so there’s some saving grace. Isn’t it funny how the seemingly worst things - lack of privacy, the van getting hot, having to go to a gym to shower, lack of conveniences - actually turn out to be the most beneficial characteristics of the lifestyle? Critical thinking is a must. You can’t ever stop asking “why?”
But looking at apartment living from an objective perspective, there are definitely some benefits to it as well. Dating aside, the constantly ‘on the go’ mindset of living in a car is contrasted with a more relaxed mentality when residing in an apartment. I found myself returning to deep thoughts more often regarding subjects such as my life’s direction as a whole. But the slowness does impede enjoyment to a degree as well so in that regard It’s a trade off, just like most things in life. Overall I was happy, but it wasn’t economically sustainable with the jobs I was working.
That’s when I heard about hashtag van life.
Up to this point I had no idea there was a growing trend of people living in vans, blowing up Instagram and becoming widely popularized amongst my own demographic, cough dating demographic included. The one stumbling block of car life had been solved with the advent of a simple hashtag... salvation had arrived! Although my personal reasons for wanting to live in a vehicle hadn’t changed, the typical responses to hearing I lived in a van differed completely. The awkward kind of “what the fuck’s?” In response to hearing that I lived in my car turned into a repetitive “oh my god that’s so cool! Are you like, travelling??” Which really is kind of frustrating in its own right. “No, I just work full time and live in my van” helped bring the awkwardness back to a level I was comfortable with.
To me, big ‘ol vans always seemed extremely obvious and therefore impractical for long term, single location living, especially when I knew that I could do it about ten times as covertly in a small hatchback and an $80 per month storage unit. Choosing a car over a van was always a no brainer for me, and stealth was an important consideration since the laws in San Diego forbid sleeping in a vehicle. Learning about the defeat of Assembly Bill 718 proposed by Kansen Chu of San Jose which would have made the act of inhabiting a vehicle legal across the entire state of California was another kick to the nuts that came just as I was deciding whether or not I would buy a van, and where life would take me next.
Long story short, I ended up deciding that I needed less rent and more van in my life so I picked up Vannosaurus Rex, my current chariot and giant white mansion on wheels. It was love at first sight. It’s been over two years of full time van dwelling to date. I had initially planned to start my own business with the lowered risk from not having to make rent every month. Plans changed and I’ve gone through a couple of different full time jobs while overcoming some health issues, and life values have also changed along the way. One thing that hasn’t wavered is my appreciation for the mobile homeless lifestyle and all of the benefits it provides.
“A danger with adopting any particular lifestyle centered on some principle is that the habit of following the rule becomes too deeply entrenched. It can then easily become an exaggerated trait, even erring toward a vice; and it can make one inflexible when faced with changes in circumstances. This is true of a commitment to frugality as of any other commitment.” - Emrys Westacott, The Wisdom of Frugality.
I plan to do this indefinitely, until some life circumstance makes it more sensible to live another way. Maybe I’ll meet someone and move in with them in an apartment. Maybe the desire for the companionship of a pet will overwhelm me, or even a porch, or a wood burning stove. A nice place to hang sweaty clothes after working out would be handy. But the steering wheel and gear lever work just fine for now.
This is half of my retirement plan as well. If I spend the next thirty or forty years learning to further enjoy a frugal lifestyle I will have developed a sure fire resistance to times of economic hardship, something that could come in particular handy considering the uncertain future of social security in the United States. The way I see it, there are two ways to amass financial wealth - one is to work hard and make as much money as possible. The other is to reduce your required income as far as possible to a point where your needs become significantly less than your means. By choosing to work jobs that offer intrinsic benefits in accordance with my goals in life, jobs which typically come at the expense of a smaller paycheck, I find myself favoring the latter, less worn path of our materialistic, competitive society.
“Our ultimate aim in seeking more wealth is a sense of satisfaction, of happiness. But the very basis of seeking more is a feeling of not having enough, a feeling of discontentment. That feeling of discontentment, if wanting more and more, doesn’t arise from the inherent desirability of the objects we are seeking but rather from our own mental state.” - The Dalai Lama, The Art of Happiness
I hope this provided a slightly different perspective on full time vehicle dwelling from more of a philosophical and experiential standpoint. I dig it, I think you could too. It simply makes more sense than paying rent, provided it’s possible for you and your life’s circumstances. And even if it isn’t, the whole point is to remain open minded. Ask yourself why you’re doing the things you do and whether they correspond with your overall goals in life rather than simply abiding by the status quo.
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Edit: here’s the post I made a while back; Link
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2018.01.20 02:33 Tschirky4 /r/OnTheFarm Mods' 2018 Top 100 Prospect Rankings: 50-41

The Methodology 4 Of Our Great /OnTheFarm Mods Created Their Own Top 100 Lists And Combined We Came Up With A Formula To Fairly Average The 100 Out. We Feel This Was The Fairest Way To Come Up With A Communal List. A Huge Shoutout To Asroka, Tschirky4, And Gpratt283 Who Made This All Possible. And A Special Shoutout To Enjoyingcarp650 Who Helped With Some Write-Ups! We Hope You Enjoy The Rankings!
Previous Rankings
Just Missed
100-91
90-81
80-71
70-61
60-51
TL;DR
50) OF Leody Tavares, TEX
49) 2B/SS Luis Urias SD
48) RHP Jack Flaherty STL
47) RHP Cal Quantrill SD
46) SS JP Crawford PHI
45) RHP Franklin Perez DET
44) SS Franklin Barreto OAK
43) SS Nick Gordon MIN
42) OF Corey Ray MIL
41) LHP Jay Groome BOS
50) Leody Tavares, OF, Texas Rangers (175 points) asroka
6-foot-1 170 pounds Bats: S; Throws: R
134 G at A-Ball; .249/.312/.360, 8 HR, 20 SB in 522 AB
As an 18-year-old, Leody Taveras was given an assignment to the Rangers’ Class-A affiliate, the Hickory Crawdads, at the start of the 2017 season. The assignment seemed a little aggressive, but given the success the teenager had in the Dominican Summer League and in rookie ball, it was appropriate. To say he was overmatched in his first full season in affiliated ball would be too critical, but his slashline surely wouldn’t impress you at first glance: .249/.312/.360. But doing this as just an 18-year-old new to stateside baseball should boost your initial view of Taveras.
He’s the prototypical lead-off hitter type. He plays an up-the-middle position, runs fast, and makes a lot of contact from both sides of the plate. Scouts have lauded his ability to handle center field and he has the makings of a plus defender for the next decade thanks to his silky smooth ability to glide across the outfield which has helped him on the basepaths, too. He homered eight times in nearly 600 plate appearances last season which was right on par with the expectation scouts had in him. Flashing some power now is promoting optimism that he’ll grow into some more down the road.
What really affirmed Taveras’ contact skills was his ability to avoid the strikeout -- he struck out just 92 times last year and walked 47 times. A feel for the strike zone at his age at a tough assignment in Hickory really gussied up his prospect status and has the Rangers clinging to their next teenage phenom as tightly as any prospect in their system. He’s looking like he’s a contact-first, everyday centerfielder, something most teams covet. He’ll probably get another taste of Class-A ball before the Rangers hand him his next test at their High-A affiliate in the Carolina League. After that, if all goes well, he could move pretty quickly and be in Texas before his 21st birthday.
Highest Ranking: 37; Lowest: Unranked
49) Luis Urias, 2B/SS, San Diego Padres (176 points)-patriotsfan543
5-foot-9 160 pounds Bats: R; Throws: R
118 G at AA; .296/.398/.380, 3 HR, 7 SB, 68 BB’s, 65 K’s in 442 AB
Luis Urias was signed out of the Mexican League by the Padres back in 2013. Urias is an advanced hitter at the plate and has a very good eye at the plate. He does not strike out much and puts the ball in play often. Urias has the ability to spray the ball across all fields. He hits for a very high average, but the power has yet to come, and it doesn’t look like it’s coming anytime soon. Urias has the possible potential to be a .300 hitter, but won’t put many over the fence. Defensively, he has a solid glove at 2B and a decent arm to go with it. He has average speed.
Urias has put up impressive numbers in the minors. In 2014, he had a brief stint in rookie ball. In just over 40 games he slashed .310/.393/.355. The following season was in A ball where he hit .299 over the course of the year. His breakout season came in 2016 where he hit .333, earning him the California League’s MVP at the age of 19. This past year in 2017 he continued the success in a full season in AA where he hit .296. He only hit 3 HR but it is pretty clear he is not going to develop into a power hitter. Look for Urias to begin in AAA this season and there is a very good chance he is playing in PETCO Park by at least the end of the season.
Highest Ranking: 31; Lowest: 79
48) Jack Flaherty, RHP, St. Louis Cardinals (182 points) tschirky4
6-foot-4 205 pounds Bats: R; Throws: R
63.1 IP at AA: 1.42 ERA, 0.92 WHIP, 8.81 K/9
85.1 IP at AAA: 2.74 ERA, 1.14 WHIP, 8.96 K/9
21.1 IP at MLB: 6.33 ERA, 1.55 WHIP, 8.44 K/9
Coming up through high school in the same rotation as more highly touted prospects in the Chicago White Sox’s Lucas Giolito and the Atlanta Braves Max Fried (imagine being 17 years old and having to play that team), Jack Flaherty may wind up being the best out of all of them. While Giolito quickly moved up to being baseball’s #1 overall prospect just a year ago and Fried was drafted 7th overall in 2012, they have both lost some shine on their prospect status while Flaherty has slowly moved his way through the minors and debuted last year just 3 years after going 34th overall in 2014.
While Giolito dominated at every level he went to before falling flat in the bigs and Fried has been inconsistent throughout his minors’ career, Flaherty has showed very solid consistency at every level he’s been at. He finished out his draft year at rookie ball with a 1.59 ERA with 28 strikeouts in 23 innings, then spent all of 2015 at A-Ball registering a 2.84 ERA with 97 K’s in 95 innings and all of 2016 at A+ with a 3.56 ERA and 126 K’s in 134 innings. Last year was his true breakout as he started out at AA before moving to AAA after 10 starts and recording a 2.18 ERA across 147.2 innings with 147 strikeouts. He was promoted to the majors in September and while he didn’t find as much success there, as evidenced by his 6.33 ERA, he did record 20 K’s in 21.1 innings. Control wasn’t an issue with Flaherty throughout his minors’ career as he owns a career 3.26 BB/9.
Flaherty is able to pitch this well thanks to his 4-pitch arsenal and his ability to know when to use it. His fastball is an average low 90’s fastball but plays up due to his secondary pitches being in the mid 70’s. His best secondary is his changeup, one that he is able to control anywhere he wants in the zone. This has been his go to pitch that he trusts himself to throw in any count. He also employs a decent slider and average curveball that he throws to keep hitters guessing, though both have been said to have improved in the past year.
Don’t let a 21-inning stint in the majors scare you off of him, as he was the 3rd youngest starter in the majors last year. Flaherty doesn’t have the highest ceiling, but he has the floor of a #4 inning eater and the ceiling of a solid-if-unspectacular #2. While he may not be the sexiest prospect, he seems to be one of the safest all of the minors.
Highest Ranking: 36; Lowest: 94
47) Cal Quantrill, RHP, San Diego Padres (184 points) tschirky4
6-foot-2 165 pounds Bats: L; Throws: R
73.2 IP at A-Ball: 3.67 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 9.29 K/9
42.1 IP at AA: 4.04 ERA, 1.61 WHIP, 7.23 K/9
I don’t know if it’s in the DNA or if its just about having someone mentor you from a young age who played professionally, but having a dad who played in the MLB is a huge advantage. I know it sounds obvious, but it is crazy to think that out of all of the players in America who aspire to be a professional baseball player, two or more can come from the same family. This pertains to Cal Quantrill whose father, Paul, was an all-star relief pitcher for the Blue Jays. Cal may follow in his father’s footsteps as an all-star, only he’s going to do it as a starter.
Drafted 8th overall in 2016 even after not playing his junior year at Stanford due to a UCL tear, Quantrill has been brought along slowly and yet moved quickly so far in his career. He only threw 37 innings in 2016 and 116 this past year, while making it all the way to AA, as the Padres want to take it careful with the guy they think can be their next ace. While Mackenzie Gore will undoubtedly challenge him for that honor for years to come, Quantrill has shown that he has the stuff to be their guy. He has struck out 156 batters in his 153 innings in the minors while walking 48. His control is lacking a bit as of now, but that is to be expected of someone who recently had Tommy John surgery. While his 4.12 ERA might not scream ace, his stuff absolutely does.
Quantrill boasts a fastball that sits in the mid 90’s and although its not the most overpowering pitch, it keeps its velocity late into games and sets up his secondaries. Those secondaries include a slider that doesn’t have much movement but dips just enough in both speed and height to induce swings-and-misses, and a changeup. The change up is the reason he was drafted 8th overall. It drops off the table and gets swings-and-misses at will, and those who do make contact with it wind up with a weak groundout.
Quantrill may not look the part as of right now, but don’t be fooled by the numbers. He and Mackenzie Gore are going to form one of the scariest 1-2 punches in the bigs for years to come and if he can improve on his slider while completely regaining his pre-surgery control, he will absolutely reach his ceiling as a frontline starter.
Highest Ranking: 42; Lowest: 74
46) JP Crawford, SS, Philadelphia Phillies (192 points) asroka
6-foot-2 180 pounds Bats: L; Throws: R
127 G at AAA; .243/.351/.405, 15 HR, 5 SB in 474 ABs
23 G at MLB; .214/.356/.300, 1 SB in 70 ABs
It was a long, winding road for the Phillies’ first-round pick in 2013 but this past season, in September, J.P. Crawford was awarded with a call-up to the big league club to make his Major League debut. He climbed Top-100 lists year after year until he didn’t… which came after his first real down season back in 2016. After over 100 impressive Double-A games, Crawford was promoted and spent his final 87 games of 2016 in Triple-A where he struggled for the first time in his minor league career. The trial appeared to cause his prospect stock to deteriorate hastily but unnecessarily. He slashed a lowly .244/.328/.318 in those 385 plate appearances and it sent some people into a panic. Crawford still managed to impress with his trademark BB/K ratio, but it wasn’t enough to overcome that .318 slugging percentage. Just 16 of his 82 hits went for extra bases that year in Lehigh Valley.
The Phillies opted to keep Crawford at Triple-A at the start of this past season where even the slightest improvement would probably get him on the next bus, plane, or train to the rebuilding Philadelphia club, but that never really came. Crawford sold out for more power in 2017 which upped his K% to a career-high 17.4 percent, which is still just fine, all while walking over 14 percent of the time. In return for more strikeouts, Crawford smacked 15 home runs in 127 Triple-A games last year to up his slugging percentage up to .405 just before his September call-up.
The power surge is welcome because when you couple his new batted ball profile with his savvy defense at shortstop, you have a budding all-star. Really. Crawford’s a super athlete and fields the ball with ease and is equipped with a strong arm, too.
Patience will be required, however. Given his immediate struggles at Triple-A and with the Phillies, Crawford needs to be afforded the time to grow into the caliber of player his profile suggests he will become. The poor 23-game stint he had with the Phillies last season (yet still managed to walk over 18 percent of the time) is more or less the same player he was when he first arrived in Lehigh Valley. He might be given the opportunity to start at short for 2018 with the Phillies since they’re still building for the future, so it’s important to remember Crawford’s still building, too.
Highest Ranking: 32; Lowest: 70
45) Franklin Perez, RHP, Detroit Tigers (192 points) tschirky4
6-foot-1 170 pounds Bats: S; Throws: R
54.1 IP at A+; 2.98 ERA, 0.99 WHIP, 8.78 K/9
32 IP at AA: 3.09 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 7.03 K/9
When the Tigers traded one of the faces of their franchise last year in Justin Verlander, they wanted to make sure they got a potential superstar in return. With respect to Jake Rodgers and Daz Cameron, they might have gotten their guy in Franklin Perez. Signed out of Venezuela as a 3rd baseman in 2014, the Astros saw enough in his cannon of an arm to give him a $1 million signing bonus and move him to pitcher. The results have more than exceeded expectations.
At just 17 years old he threw 50 innings at rookie ball with 61 strikeouts in 50 innings. That did come with a 4.50 ERA, but as a converted 3rd baseman he was expected to see some bumps along the way. Perhaps the most impressive stats was his 14 walks in 50 innings giving him a 6.4 BB%. To show that kind of control as a 17-year-old converted fielder, that is more than impressive. He followed that season up with a 2.84 ERA in 66.2 innings at A-ball in 2016 with a 75/19 K/BB rate. 2017 was actually his worst statistical year to date, but he started the year at high A and ended the year at AA, registering a 3.02 ERA across 86.1 innings while striking out 78 and walking 27. Keep in mind he was a 19-year-old at AA.
I’ll admit that I’m a sucker for pitchers with 4 pitches because they are so much more unpredictable while on the mound. Franklin is one of said pitchers and they are all above average. His fastball sits in the mid 90’s and is expected to gain velocity with age. His curveball is his go to strikeout pitch and scouts are enamored with its 12-6 drop. He throws a change-up more than you would expect for a 19-year-old and has received positive reviews on it. He also recently added a slider to his arsenal and scouts think that if it can become a plus pitch, he will be a strikeout machine.
Perez is one of the youngest players at AA and has a chance to pitch for a non-contending Detroit team this year. He still has some work to do, which makes him all the more frightening. With a system that includes guys like Alex Faedo, Beau Burrows and Kyle Funkhouser, Perez could be the best of all of them. He also rivals Anthony Davis for the best unibrow in sports, if you’re into that sort of thing.
Highest Ranking: 44; Lowest: 62
44) Franklin Barreto, SS, Oakland Athletics (193 points) asroka
5-foot-10 190 pounds Bats: R; Throws: R
111 G at AAA; .290/.339/.456, 15 HR, 15 SB in 469 ABs
25 G at MLB; .197/.250/.352 2 HR, 2 SB in 71 ABs
It feels like a century ago, but it turns out Franklin Barreto might be the prized piece for the Athletics that came from the painful Josh Donaldson trade. He’s been on lists like this one for the past few years now, but he took a little bit of a step backwards this past year despite making his Major League debut for a two week-long trial midseason and was called back up in September.
Despite his size, Barreto has been long known for his ability to punish baseballs thanks to his quick and mighty bat speed. This past year, however, he fell more into the free-swinger category than the A’s might have liked. Ever since he was signed by the Blue Jays in 2012, Barreto managed to decrease his K% from 24 percent in his stateside debut in 2013 to 17.8 percent in Double-A in 2016. Last year was different. In his first extended look at Triple-A pitching, Barreto was striking out in nearly 30 percent of his at-bats when he was given his Major League assignment at the end of June. He homered in his Major League debut and collected four hits in his first 10 at-bats but mostly slumped during the final week and a half of his call-up before returning to Triple-A Nashville.
Upon his return to Nashville, Barreto found his old self. For the remainder of his season in Triple-A, he slashed .304/.360/.500 and decreased his K% to a high but slightly more manageable 24.4 percent. He went on to collect 29 more at-bats with Oakland in September but really scuffled to finish his 2017 campaign. He struck out 50 percent of the time and recorded just six hits in his final 14 games.
Some of the dissent with Barreto, apart from his concerning strikeout rates, is his future position. Scouts seem to think he’s without one, considering they don’t view him as a long-term shortstop like the A’s might. He’d handle second base just fine and has the arm for third need be, and could find himself in the outfield if the right situation arose. He’ll have only just turned 22-years old when the 2018 season begins, so there’s plenty of time for Barreto to learn the ropes and calm his approach down in order to achieve regular playing time at the Major League level.
Highest Ranking: 14; Lowest: 94
43) Nick Gordon, SS, Minnesota Twins (205 points) asroka
6-foot-2 175 pounds Bats: L; Throws: R
122 G at AA; .270/.341/.408 9 HR, 13 SB in 519 ABs
The Twins handle their prospects delicately and I think for that reason, some of the shine on the fifth overall pick in 2014 has unfairly worn off. Nick Gordon only just got his first at-bat at Double-A Chattanooga this past season, but the patience the Twins demonstrated with him has been necessary. Gordon required time to develop a more selective eye in the box, especially since, at this point, he’ll never reach an average in-game power skillset. However, this past season in Chattanooga, he did finish the season slugging above .400 for the first time in his pro career. He hit nine homers at the level, four more than in his past three years of development combined. So maybe there is a little something else in his wiry frame.
Either way, power will never be the trademark to Gordon’s game. He measures out “above-average” in most other areas though. He can hit and run and handles shortstop well enough to project him as at least average there for the future. He has no real eye-popping tools but what the Twins have here is a conglomeration of an above-average shortstop who can handle the position for years to come, which is hard enough to find on its own.
The doubts and criticisms in Gordon’s abilities aren’t exactly unfounded, though. He’s been in a defensive slump for the past year and a half, dating back to appearance in the Arizona Fall League. Last season, he struck out 23 percent of the time, too, in Double-A. He’s never had too much trouble making contact, so I believe he’ll bring that K% back down to a viable number to be an everyday man in Minnesota, but there’s still some development yet to do for this 22-year-old.
Now that it’s under a microscope, his defense will have to tighten up in order for the Twins to cement him into the shortstop role; if not, he could probably make for fine second baseman like his half-brother Dee (although maybe not so much anymore). As a high schooler, Gordon was pegged to become a glove-first shortstop who could hopefully mature into an everyday hitter, the opposite scenario is forming, but hopefully he still becomes what they drafted: their shortstop of the future.
Highest Ranking: 23; Lowest: Unranked
42) Corey Ray, OF, Milwaukee Brewers (206 points)- asroka
5-foot-11 185 pounds Bats: L; Throws: L
112 G at A+; 238/.311/.367, 7 HR, 24 SB in 449 ABs
In order for Corey Ray to recapture all of the hype he had entering his pro career, he’ll need to toss his 2017 season straight into the trash. Little can be salvaged from his forgettable season. He got a late start on things as he recovered from a torn meniscus in his draft year and missed the first month of the season. All year long, Ray tinkered with his batting stances and struggled to catch up to fastballs in the low 90s. Something wasn’t right. Truthfully, this was the case of a professional athlete dealing with on-field adversity for the first time. All his life, Ray thrived on a baseball field. At Louisville, he put together a phenomenal collegiate career. In his junior season, he stole over 40 bases without being thrown out once, he hit a ton of homers as a center fielder under 6-foot, and displayed the athleticism to stay at the position in the pros.
Despite all of those tools, Ray struggled mightily in High-A in the Carolina League. He spent the entire season mired in a slump and finished slashing .238/.311/.367 and struck out a whopping 31 percent of the time. He stole 24 bases, but was caught stealing 10 times, and looked like he might still be candidate to move off of center into left field down the road.
Still, the prospect community is too quick to write off players after a solitary bad season. It isn’t fair to deem Ray a lost cause because he’ll need more time to develop than initially thought. Nothing about his work ethic or demeanor seems to suggest he won’t be able to overcome a poor (nearly) full-season debut.
It’ll take longer for Ray to develop because he has so many enticing tools. At the plate, should he take advantage of his speed and employ a slash-and-hack approach? Or, should he focus on harnessing some of the serious power his swing possesses? Right now, his approach is a mix of these ideologies and it clearly isn’t working. A reboot in 2018 with a more strategic approach to the plate will help him become the offensive force he was bound to become after being selected fifth overall in 2016 by the Brewers.
Highest Ranking: 30; Lowest: 62
41) Jay Groome, LHP, Boston Red Sox (216 points)-patriotsfan543
6-foot-6 220 pounds Bats: L; Throws: L
11 IP at ROK; 1.64 ERA, 0.91 WHIP, 11.45 K/9
44.1 IP at A-Ball: 6.70 ERA, 1.56 WHIP,11.77 K/9
Jay Groome was drafted 12th overall in the 2016 MLB Draft out of Barnegat High School in Barnegat, NJ. Groome was projected to go first overall for many weeks before the draft, but as the draft got closer his stock kept on falling. It is still unknown why exactly he fell so much in the draft, but there have been rumors have his makeup being a huge concern and last year his father was arrested for possession of heroin and marijuana and many other charges. How much of that had to do with his slide I’m not sure.
Groome only pitched 6 innings total in pro ball in 2016 due to injury and he would deal with injuries again in 2017. Groome would log more innings in 2017 than 2016, Groome would pitch about 60 innings total, most of them in Low-A. There are two big takeaways from last season: the injuries and the ERA. Groome had two injuries last year, one being a lat injury and then after returning from that his season was cut short with a forearm injury, which is a precursor for Tommy John. The other concern was his ERA and Groome logged 44 IP in A-, but to a tune of an awful 6.70 ERA. It has been a rocky 2 years for Groome, but he is only 19 years old and there is a lot to like about him.
Groome’s biggest things going for him is his height and the fact that he is a southpaw. That is always going to get you a little more leeway when struggling. Groome has a fastball that sits in the mid-90s and back in high school could get it up to 98. He has a plus curveball and a developing changeup. It is important to remember that Groome is only 19 years old and you can’t look too far into the stats he put up thus far; however, the injuries are a real concern and this year is going to be huge to see if he can put together a full season. Groome is still a ways away from the Major Leagues and his name is always getting thrown out there whenever it is rumored the Sox are interested in trading for a big name.
Highest Ranking: 29; Lowest: 72
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2017.09.29 02:42 Rsubs33 [Game Preview] Week 4 - Philadelphia Eagles(2-1) at Los Angeles Chargers(0-3)

Philadelphia Eagles (2-1) at Los Angeles Chargers (0-3)
One week after sending the Giants to an 0-3 start after a last second 61 yard field goal, the Eagles take to the road against the winless Los Angeles Chargers and aim to put a proverbial nail in the season of quarterback Philip Rivers and Co. The Chargers are 0-3, but should not be slept on with weapons on offense and a dangerous pass rush the game won't be easy. Rivers will look to bounce back from one of the worst performances of his career and it will be Jim Schwartz and the Eagles defense job to make sure that doesn't happen. On the other side of the ball, balance offensively and getting the run going early against a Chargers defense that is giving up nearly 150 yards on the ground could hold the key to victory and will help keep the dangerous Chargers pass rush honest. The Chargers and Eagles always play each other tough with 9-11 games being decided by 8 points of fewer and I don't expect anything different this week at the StubHub Center.
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Date
Sunday, October 1st, 2017
Game Time Game Location
4:05 PM - Eastern 18400 Avalon Boulevard
3:05 PM - Central 1020 Pattison Ave
2:05 PM - Mountain Carson, CA 90746
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Weather Forecast
Stadium Type: Open Air
Surface: Grass
Temperature: 75°F
Feels Like: 75°F
Forecast: Clear. Partly cloudy until afternoon.
Chance of Precipitation: 1%
Cloud Coverage: 23%
Wind: SW 6 MPH
Betting Odds
Oddsshark Information
Favorite/Opening Line: Los Angeles by -2
OveUnder: 48
Record VS. Spread: Philadelphia 1-2, Los Anegles 0-2-1
Where to Watch on TV
FOX will broadcast Sunday’s game to a regional audience. Dick Stockton will handle the play-by-play duties and Mark Schlereth will provide analysis. Shannon Spake will report from the sidelines.
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Calling the game on 94WIP and the Eagles Radio Network will be Merrill Reese, the NFL’s longest-tenured play-by-play announcer (41st season). Joining Reese in the radio booth will be former Eagles All-Pro wide receiver Mike Quick, while Howard Eskin will report from the sidelines.
Location Station Frequency
Philadelphia, PA WIP-FM 94.1 FM and 610 AM
Allentown, PA WCTO-FM 96.1 FM
Atlantic City/South Jersey WENJ-FM 97.3 FM
Levittown, PA WBCB-AM 1490 AM
Northumberland, PA WEGH-FM 107.3 FM
Pottsville, PA WPPA-AM 1360 AM
Reading, PA WEEU-AM 830 AM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WAFL-FM 97.7 FM
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA WEJL-FM 96.1 FM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WAFL-FM 97.7 FM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WEJL-AM 630 AM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WBAX-AM 1240 AM
Williamsport, PA WBZD-FM 93.3 FM
Wilmington, DE WDEL-FM/AM 101.7 FM
York/LancasteHarrisburg, PA WSOX-FM 96.1 FM
Philadelphia Spanish Radio
Rickie Ricardo, Macu Berral and Gus Salazar will handle the broadcast in Spanish on Mega 105.7 FM in Philadelphia and the Eagles Spanish Radio Network.
Location Station Frequency
Philadelphia, PA LA MEGA 105.7 FM
Allentown, PA WSAN 1470 AM
Atlantic City, NJ WIBG 1020 AM; 101.3 FM
Chargers Radio
Chargers Radio Network Matt “Money” Smith (play-by-play), Nick Hardwick (color analyst), Shannon Farren (sidelines).
National Radio
Westwood One will carry the game nationally with Kevin Lee (play-by-play) and Ross Tucker (analyst) on the call.
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NFC East Standings
Team Record PCT HOME ROAD DIV CONF PF PA DIFF STRK
Eagles 2-1 0.67 1-0 1-1 2-0 2-0 77 68 9 W1
Cowboys 2-1 0.67 1-0 1-1 1-0 2-0 64 62 2 W1
Redskins 2-1 0.67 1-1 1-0 0-1 1-1 71 60 11 W2
Giants 0-3 0 0-1 0-2 0-2 0-3 37 70 -33 L3
Series Information
The Los Angeles Chargers lead the Philadelphia Eagles (7-4)
Series History
Head to Head Box Scores
First Game Played
October 6th, 1974 at San Diego Stadium, San Diego, CA. Philadelphia Eagles 13 - San Diego Chargers 7
Points Leader
The Philadelphia Eagles lead the Los Angeles Chargers (216-211)
Coaches Record
Doug Pederson: This will be Pederson's first game vs. the Chargers
Anthony Lynn: This will be Lynn's first game vs. the Eagles
Coaches Head to Head
This will be the first game Pederson and Lynn faceoff
Quarterback Record
Carson Wentz: This will be Wentz's first game vs. the Chargers
Philip Rivers: Against Eagles: 2-0
Quarterbacks Head to Head
Carson Wentz vs Philip Rivers: This will be the first game Wentz and Rivers face off
Records per Stadium
Record @ Lincoln Financial Field: Series Tied: 1-1
Record @ StubHub Center: This will be the first time the teams face off at the StubHub Center
Rankings and Last Meeting Information
AP Pro 32 Ranking
Eagles No. 12 - Chargers No. 27
Record
Eagles: 2-1
Chargers: 0-3
Last Meeting and Last Meeting at Site
Sunday, Sept. 15, 2013
Eagles 30 - Chargers 33
TPhilip Rivers threw three touchdown passes to Eddie Royal, and Nick Novak kicked a 46-yard field goal with 7 seconds left to lead the San Diego Chargers past the Philadelphia Eagles 33-30. This game led to the Foles great 2013 season after Vick was knocked out of the game with a concussion.
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Last 10 Meetings
Date Winner Loser Score
11/30/1980 Chargers Eagles 22-21
12/15/1985 Chargers Eagles 20-14
10/26/1986 Eagles Chargers 23-7
11/5/1989 Chargers Eagles 20-17
9/17/1995 Chargers Eagles 27-21
10/18/1998 Chargers Eagles 13-10
12/9/2001 Eagles Chargers 24-14
10/23/2005 Eagles Chargers 20-17
11/15/2009 Chargers Eagles 31-23
9/15/2013 Chargers Eagles 33-30
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2017 Team Stats
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2017 Stats (Starters/Leaders)
Passing
Name CMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT RAT
Wentz 72 116 62.1% 816 5 2 90.3
Rivers 73 112 65.2% 760 4 4 81.7
Rushing
Name ATT YDS YDS/G AVG TD
Blount 26 113 37.7 4.3 1
Gordon 44 146 48.7 3.3 2
Receiving
Name REC YDS YDS/G AVG TD
Ertz 21 245 81.7 11.7 1
Allen 19 196 65.3 10.3 1
Sacks
Name Sacks Team Total
Graham 2.5 8.0
Ingram 5.5 11.0
Tackles
Name Total Solo Assist Sacks
Mills 23 19 4 0
Brown 36 23 13 0
Interceptions
Name Ints Team Total
Mills/Robinson/Douglas 1 3
Phillips 1 1
Punting
Name ATT YDS LONG AVG NET IN 20 TB BP
D. Jones 12 521 58 43.4 39.2 2 2 0
Kaser 14 650 66 46.4 37.9 7 2 0
Kicking
Name ATT MADE % LONG PAT
Elliot 6 4 66% 61 5/5
Koo 5 2 40% 41 6/6
Kick Returns
Name ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
Smallwood 4 93 23.3 28 0
King 4 81 20.3 25 0
Punt Returns
Name RET YDS AVG LONG TD FC
Sproles*(IR) 1 10 10.0 10 0 5
Smith 1 9 9.0 9 0 0
Benjamin 5 32 6.4 23 0 4
League Rankings 2017
Offense Rankings
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Chargers Stat Chargers Rank
Total Offense 372.0 9th 315.3 18th
Rush Offense 119.3 9th 70.7 27th
Pass Offense 252.7 10th 244.7 11th
Points Per Game 25.7 10th 16.0 T-26th
3rd-Down Offense 48.8% 3rd 30.3% 29th
4th-Down Offense 66.7% T-6th 50% T-9th
Red Zone Offense (TD%) 66.7% T-4th 62.5% T-11th
Defense Rankings
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Chargers Stat Chargers Rank
Total Defense 341.0 21st 322.7 13th
Rush Defense 75.0 6th 146.7 31st
Pass Defense 266.0 25th 176.0 5th
Points Per Game 22.7 20th 22.3 T-18th
3rd-Down Defense 33.3 T-7th 42.5 25th
4th-Down Defense 0.0 T-1st 0.0 T-1st
Red Zone Defense (TD%) 40% T-4th 40% T-4th
Team
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Chargers Stat Chargers Rank
Turnover Diff. +1 T-10th -2 T-22nd
Penalty Per Game 7.0 T-13th 6.0 T-6th
Penalty Yards Per Game 69.7 22nd 52.3 7th
Recap from Last Week’s Games.
Eagles - Video – Rookie Jake Elliott kicked a 61-yard field goal as the clock expired to lift the Philadelphia Eagles to a 27-24 victory over the divisional rival New York Giants on Sunday at Lincoln Financial Field. The kick set and NFL rookie record for longest FG and was the longest FG in Eagles history as well. The Eagles were finally able to get the running game going as running backs Blount, Sproles, Clement and Sproles combined for 171 yards and two rushing TDs adding some balance to an offense that badly needing it. Elliott’s kick closed the door on a 4th quarter comeback effort by Eli Manning and Odell Beckham as the two hooked up twice for TDs and an injury ravaged Eagles defense that was missing its starting corner and strong safety for the game and lost starting defensive tackle Fletcher Cox and starting middle linebacker Jordan Hicks in the first half. The Eagles also lost versatile running back and return man Darren Sproles for the year as he tore his ACL and broke his arm on the same play.
Chargers - Video - The Chargers put themselves in a hole early with three first half interceptions and the Chargers were never able to recover as they fell to the Chiefs, 24-10. Melvin Gordon registered a TD for his third-straight game late in the first quarter, but it was the only time the offense would find the end zone for the rest of the afternoon. On defense, the Chargers were able to hold the high powered Chiefs’ offense in check for most the day, as Melvin Ingram recorded a career-high 3.0 sacks. And the Bolts were able to get home on Alex Smith five times, but it unfortunately wasn’t enough as L.A. fell to 0-3.
Connections
Eagles offensive coordinator Frank Reich served as the Chargers’ QBs coach in 2013 and offensive coordinatorduring the 2014-15 seasons
Eagles TEs coach Justin Peelle was selected by the Chargers in the 4th round (103rd overall) of the 2002 NFL Draft, where he spent four seasons (2002-05)
Eagles CB Patrick Robinson played for the Chargers in 2015
Chargers DT Damion Square was originally signed by the Eagles as an undrafted free agent in 2013
Eagles RB Corey Clement and Chargers RB Melvin Gordon set the single-season FBS record for rushing yards by teammates (3,536 yards) while playing together at Wisconsin.
Eagles Running back Darren Sproles (IR) was drafted by the Chargers in the 4th round and played 6 seasons with them (2005-2010)
Eagles DE Chris Long is from Santa Monica, CA
Philadelphia DT Elijah Qualls is from Petaluma, CA
Philadelphia LB Joe Walker is from Palos Verdes, CA
Eagles WR Nelson Agholor went to USC (2012-14)
Eagles TE Zach Ertz went to Stanford (2009-13) and is from Orange County, CA
2016 Pro Bowlers
Eagles Chargers
OT Jason Peters (Starter) CB Casey Hayward (Starter)
DT Fletcher Cox (Starter)
DE Brandon Graham (1st Alt)
FS Rodney McLeod (1st Alt)
PR Darren Sproles (1st Alt)
C Jason Kelce (2nd Alt)
ST Chris Maragos (2nd Alt)
General
Referee: Carl Cheffers
In the all-time series between the Eagles and Chargers, 9 of 11 games have been decided by 8-or-fewer points, including 5 games by 3-or-fewer points
The Eagles lead the NFC with a .587 winning percentage against AFC opponents since 2000.
Philadelphia has produced 20 points or more in seven consecutive contests dating back to Week 14 in 2016, which is the 2nd longest active streak in the NFL, trailing only Atlanta (nine).
The Eagles lead the NFL in 10+ yard plays (53)
Philadelphia ranks 1st in the NFL in average time of possession (34:12)
The Eagles are tied for 4th in the NFL in red zone TD efficiency (66.7%), behind Kansas City (75.0%), Buffalo(71.4%) and Detroit (71.4%)
Among NFL teams with at least 4 goal-to-go drives this season, only three have scored TDs in every opportunity: Philadelphia (4-4), Kansas City (5-5) and Pittsburgh (4-4)
Philadelphia ranks 3rd in the NFL in first downs per game (23.3), behind New England (25.0) and Green Bay (24.0)
The Eagles have recorded the 2nd-lowest percentage of three-and-out drives (13.9%, 5-of-36) in the NFL, trailing only L.A. Chargers (12.9%, 4-of-31)
Philadelphia has registered the 5th-most takeaways (6) in the NFL, behind Baltimore (10), Detroit (8), Jacksonville (8) and Washington (7)
The Eagles are tied for 4th in the NFL in opponent red zone TD efficiency (40.0%), trailing only Seattle (14.3%), Buffalo (28.6%) and Oakland (37.5%). Philadelphia also ranks 2nd in opponent red zone scoring efficiency (70.0%), behind Baltimore (60.0%). The Eagles have allowed just 3.7 points per red zone drive, ranking 3rd in the NFL in that category (Baltimore - 3.4; Seattle - 3.6).
Philadelphia has recorded the most return TDs (8) in the NFL since 2014, leading the league in both kickoff return TDs (4) and punt return TDs (4)
Philadelphia ranks 2nd in the NFL in average starting field position after kickoff (26.1), behind Baltimore (26.2)
Draft Picks
Eagles Chargers
DE Derek Barnett WR Mike Williams
CB Sidney Jones G Forrest Lamp
CB Rasul Douglas G Dan Feeney
WR Mack Hollins S Rayshawn Jenkins
RB Donnel Pumphrey S Desmond King
WR Shelton Gibson OT Sam Tevi
LB Nathan Gerry DE Isaac Rochell
DT Elijah Qualls
Notable Off-season Additions
Eagles Chargers
WR Torrey Smith OT Russell Okung
WR Alshon Jeffery DE Damion Square
DE Chris Long RB Branden Oliver
DT Timmy Jernigan
RB LaGarrett Blount
CB Patrick Robinson
G Chance Warmack
QB Nick Foles
Notable Off-season Departures
Eagles Chargers
CB Nolan Carroll OT King Dunlap
DE Connor Barwin RB Danny Woodhead
DT Bennie Logan LB Manti Te'o
QB Chase Daniel CB Brandon Flowers
CB Leodis McKelvin
WR Dorial Green-Beckham
DE Marcus Smith
RB Ryan Mathews
Milestones
QB Carson Wentz (4,598 - 14th) can make a move up to 13th place on the Eagles' All-Time Passing Yards list with 348 more passing yards moving ahead of Rodney Pete.
TE Brent Celek (4,859) needs 121 more yards to reach 5000 career receiving yards.
TE Brent Celek (386) needs 14 more receptions to reach 400 career receptions.
DE Brandon Graham (31.5 - 14th) can move up to 12th with .5 more sacks moving past a tie with Connor Barwin, Mike Mamula and Jaqua Parker. Graham can also move up to a tie for 12th all-time with 1 sacks and 11th all-time with 1.5 sacks.
DE Fletcher Cox (30.5 - 17th) needs 1.5 Sacks move into a tie for 13th all-time on the Eagles sack list with Brandon Graham, Connor Barwin, Mike Mamula and Jaqua Parker. 2 sacks more sacks would give him the most sacks all-time by an interior linemen passing Cory Simon.
S Malcolm Jenkins's (4) needs 1 more Interception for a TD to tie CB Eric Allen (5) for most Interceptions for a TD by an Eagles player. Jenkins is the only Eagles player to have a pick 6 in 3 straight seasons
LB Mychal Kendricks needs 1 more tackle to reach 300 career solo tackles and 4 more tackles to reach 400 career total tackles.
TE Brent Celek will play in his 163rd career regular-season game (all with the Eagles) on Sunday, ranking 6th on the club’s all-time list. Only David Akers (188), Brian Dawkins (183), Harold Carmichael (180), Chuck Bednarik (169) and Tra Thomas (166) have played in more regular-season games with the Eagles.
DE Brandon Graham, who is Philadelphia’s longest-tenured defensive player, will play in his 100th career regular season game (all with the Eagles) on Sunday.
QB Philip Rivers (46593) needs 407 more yards for 47000 career passing yards.
QB Philip Rivers (46593 11th all-time) needs 411 yards to pass Fran Tarkenton for 10th all-time.
QB Philip Rivers and TE Antonio Gates have combined for 85 touchdowns during their careers, tied for second-most all-time between a quarterback and receivetight end. With one more, Rivers and Gates will break a tie for second with Steve Young and Jerry Rice.
LB Keenan Allen (17) needs 3 more receiving TDs to reach 20 career receiving TDs.
DT Corey Liuget (21.5 - T-13th) can move up to tie for 12th with .5 more sacks moving past a tie with Rodney Harrison and into a tie with Marcellus Wiley and Shawn Lee. 1.0 sacks will move Liuget into sole possession of 12th place on the all-time Chargers sack list.
DE Joey Bosa (12.5 - 27th) can move up to tie for 24th on the Chargers all-time sack list with 1.0 more sacks.
Pro Football Focus Matchup Charts Courtesy of PFF Edge

WDB Matchups (CAPS = Shadow Coverage)

Eagles WRs vs. Chargers DBs
Tm Receiver Pos H Wt Sp Rt L% S% R% TaRt Cat% YPRC Gr
PHI Alshon Jeffery LWR 75 218 4.48 132 52 14 33 22 53 1.76 69.1
LAC Desmond King RCB 70 201 0 45 2 93 4 18 88 1.62 74
PHI Nelson Agholor Slot 72 198 4.42 98 8 86 6 12 57 0.74 76.1
LAC Trevor Williams Slot 71 191 0 84 0 30 70 17 62 1.21 83.5
PHI Torrey Smith RWR 72 205 4.41 121 28 25 47 13 46 0.8 43.2
LAC Casey Hayward LCB 71 192 4.47 95 85 2 13 16 56 1.27 78.1
Chargers WRs vs. Eagles DBs
Tm Receiver Pos H Wt Sp Rt L% S% R% TaRt Cat% YPRC Gr
LAC Keenan Allen Slot 74 211 4.58 114 29 61 11 29 68 2.03 80
PHI Patrick Robinson Slot 71 191 4.46 108 20 80 0 16 59 1.33 86.5
LAC Tyrell Williams LWR 76 205 0 121 33 27 40 19 61 1.66 65.5
PHI Rasul Douglas RCB 74 209 4.59 77 13 5 82 19 73 1.05 82.2
LAC Travis Benjamin RWR 70 175 4.31 96 19 36 45 18 62 1.63 72.5
PHI Jalen Mills LCB 72 191 4.61 131 56 2 43 25 63 2 41.1

TE Matchups

Tm ReceiveDefender H Wt Rt Bl% Inl% Slot% Wide% TaRt Cat% YPRC Gr
LAC Antonio Gates 76 255 539 5 19 59 22 20 60 1.23 73.1
PHI Malcolm Jenkins (S) 72 204 367 10 57 0.67 42.1
PHI Zach Ertz 77 250 704 7 41 48 11 20 77 1.73 82.5
LAC Jatavis Brown (LB) 71 221 54 11 100 0.94 39.9

OL/DL Matchups

Team Press% SackConv YBCon Run ins. 5yd Run ins. 5yd TD% PBAdv RBAdv
PHI (OFF) 3.80% 26% 2.29 1.3 25% 1% 18%
LAC (DEF) 6.70% 10% 1.76 2 17%
LAC (OFF) 5.00% 5% 1.68 0.7 50% 33% -32%
PHI (DEF) 6.00% 18% 1.42 0.7 50%
Matchups to Watch
Joey Bosa and Melvin Ingram vs. Jason Peters and Lane Johnson
Everyone knows this will be the top match up to watch which makes me Captain Obvious. The Chargers have arguably the best edge rusher duo in the NFL in 2016 DROY Joey Bosa and the underrated Melvin Ingram. Bosa finished his rookie season with 12.5 sacks in 12 games while Ingram is off to a hot start with 5.5 sacks in the first 3 games. Last season, Bosa and Ingram finished as PFFs 4th and 9th best EDGE rushers, respectively. The Eagles have already given up a total of 11 sacks through 3 games this season, making this key matchup something to watch throughout the game. Enter Jason Peters and Lane Johnson, arguably the best Offensive Tackle pairing in football. Lane Johnson did not allow a sack, pressure, or hurry last week against the Giants while Peters largely shut down Olivier Vernon. This is easily the best offensive tackle pairing Bosa and Ingram have faced in the early season and may be the best grouping they'll go up against in 2017. Despite his age, and perception, Peters is still among the very best offensive tackles in the game with Lane Johnson not far behind him. Johnson is also the best right tackle in football. Together, they finished as the 8th (JP) and 9th (Lane) best tackles last season per PFF and are the 8th (JP) and 13th (Lane) best tackles per PFF so far on this young season. Both players excel in run and pass blocking. They will have their hands full on Sunday. If there is one thing consistent about the Chargers, it is Bosa and Ingram and they will bring the heat.
Eagles Run Game vs Chargers Run Defense
Doug Pederson vowed to get the running game going and the Eagles did just that against the Giants. They rushed for 193 yards on 39 carries, good for 4.9 YPC against the formerly stout run defense of the New York Giants. Doug was criticized all week for the lack of commitment to the run. There was a bit of truth to that, but it is easy to look at a box score rather than understanding what the offense was able to actually accomplish. There is no doubt that there needs to be some balance on offense, but it is built upon an efficient run game supplementing the passing attack. With that said, the way the Eagles were running and blocking this past Sunday, there was every reason to continue running the ball down the Giants throats. The Eagles run game will continue to rely on scheme and blocking execution in order succeed due to the lack of a dynamic feature back. The loss of Darren Sproles for the season complicates matters for the Eagles, especially in the passing game. There is an opportunity in this game to continue what they did against the Giants since the Chargers have the 31st ranked run defense in the NFL. Through 3 games the Chargers have allowed a dismal 4.7 YPC. In an effort to slow down the Chargers EDGE rushers, this should be part of the offensive game plan. The Eagles have a talented offensive line, even with the uncertainty at LG, should be able to take advantage of this Chargers weakness.
Eagles Receivers vs Chargers Secondary
It's worth singling out this match up as the Eagles may have some favorable looks vs this Chargers secondary. They were dealt a big blow when Jason Verrett went on season ending IR; Verrett is a highly-skilled CB for the Chargers who has the ability to be a premier CB in the NFL, but can never stay healthy. Opposite him is Casey Hayward, who was signed as a FA from the Green Bay Packers last off-season. 2016 was a career year for Hayward, as he was one of the league’s best CBs. Rookie Desmond King and second year player Trevor Williams have played well to start the year. Safety is a different story. The two Chargers starting safeties are Tre Boston and Jahleel Addae, rank 54th and 59 at Safety per PFF, respectively. There is an opportunity for the Eagles to attack the middle of this defense through the air with Torrey Smith, Alshon Jeffery, and Zach Ertz. It isn’t is a perfect matchup for the WRs, but there should be opportunities available to make big plays given the weakness up the middle on the Chargers defense.
Chargers Passing Attack vs Eagles Secondary
This will be another solid test for the Eagles secondary this week. Fortunately, the Eagles will have Rodney McLeod back in the lineup. I will be extremely thankful if we never have to see Chris Maragos play safety ever again. Based on the practice reports this week, expect the Eagles to be without Jaylen Watkins and Corey Graham again. Rasul Douglas has been a real bright spot for the defense since entering the game against Kansas City. The rookie 3rd round pick has made a number of plays demonstrating good tackling ability as well as excellent ball skills for a young player. His interception off a deep Eli Manning pass was textbook. Presently, he is PFFs 24th ranked corner. His ability to play the ball must have him drooling since Rivers has been known to be charitable of late. At the second CB position will be Jalen Mills, who was targeted 21 times (!!!!) last week vs the Giants. Mills is often targeted a bunch but he is a competitor who has done a better job of keeping the play in front of him. Our 3rd CB, Patrick Robinson, went from training camp nightmare to PFFs 5th rated CB on the season so far. At one point, Robinson was considered a fringe roster candidate. Shifting him to more of a slot role has worked wonders for the DB. They could possibly have their hands full this week as well. Keenan Allen is finally healthy and is a really good receiver. Tyrell Williams is a big bodied target. Travis Benjamin is a little inconsistent but has the speed to go deep. In addition to these guys, they have aging star Antonio Gates, who is still a beast in the red zone, as well as Hunter Henry. Henry is a really talented second year tight end the Chargers don't seem to use on a regular basis, but has the ability to haul in a lot of targets and TDs when they go to him. The Giants employed a lightning-quick passing attack against the Eagles that Schwartz seemed to expect. This was used to slow down the rush due to their own horrid OL. If Rivers is able to get his game on track, he has the ability to light up this secondary. Really depends on the game plan the Chargers employ.
Eagles Defensive Line vs Chargers Offensive Line
It's no secret the Eagles have a very formidable defensive line that has the ability to wreck opposing game plans. This week they will likely be without stud DT Fletcher Cox. While the Eagles do have depth at the position, no one can completely replace the ability Cox has inside. The Chargers are a team committed to running the ball despite not being good at it and have been decent in pass protection on the season. It'll be up to everyone else to hold it down while he is out of the lineup. Fortunately, the Eagles have Timmy Jernigan. And while Beau Allen is a good player in his own right, the drop off from Cox to Allen is steep. The Eagles must be able to keep the Chargers one dimensional and force Rivers into making mistakes.
Special thanks to MikeTysonChicken and abenyishay for their help in creating this Game Preview.
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2017.09.08 17:01 Rsubs33 [Game Preview] Week 1 - Philadelphia Eagles (0-0) at Washington Redskins (0-0)

Philadelphia Eagles (0-0) vs. Washington Redskins (0-0)
The Philadelphia Eagles open the 2017 campaign when they travel to Landover , MD to face the Washington Redskins in an NFC East divisional contest at FedExField. The Eagles have lost five straight games against the Redskins and are aiming for their first win in the series since Sept. 21, 2014 (W, 37-34).
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Date
Sunday, September 10th, 2017
Game Time Game Location
1:00 PM - Eastern FedExField
12:00 PM - Central 1600 FedEx Way
11:00 AM - Mountain Landover, MD 20785
10:00 AM - Pacific Wikipedia - Map
Weather Forecast
Stadium Type: Open Air
Surface: Grass
Temperature: 69°F
Feels Like: 69°F
Forecast: Warmer - Clear
Humidity: 48%
Chance of Precipitation: 2%
Cloud Coverage: 0%
Wind: NE 8 MPH
Betting Odds
Oddsshark Information
Favorite/Opening Line: Philadelphia by -1
OveUnder: 47.5
Record VS. Spread: Philadelphia 0-0, Washington 0-0
Where to Watch on TV
FOX - will broadcast Sunday’s game to a regional audience. Kenny Albert will handle the play-by-play duties and Ronde Barber will provide analysis. Kristina Pink will report from the sidelines.
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Internet Streams
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Radio Streams
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Radio.com 94.1 Desktop Streaming
Listen to Merrill Reese and Mike Quick
Calling the game on 94WIP and the Eagles Radio Network will be Merrill Reese, the NFL’s longest-tenured play-by-play announcer (41st season). Joining Reese in the radio booth will be former Eagles All-Pro wide receiver Mike Quick, while Howard Eskin will report from the sidelines.
Location Station Frequency
Philadelphia, PA WIP-FM 94.1 FM and 610 AM
Allentown, PA WCTO-FM 96.1 FM
Atlantic City/South Jersey WENJ-FM 97.3 FM
Levittown, PA WBCB-AM 1490 AM
Northumberland, PA WEGH-FM 107.3 FM
Pottsville, PA WPPA-AM 1360 AM
Reading, PA WEEU-AM 830 AM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WAFL-FM 97.7 FM
Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, PA WEJL-FM 96.1 FM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WAFL-FM 97.7 FM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WEJL-AM 630 AM
Salisbury/Ocean City, MD WBAX-AM 1240 AM
Williamsport, PA WBZD-FM 93.3 FM
Wilmington, DE WDEL-FM/AM 101.7 FM
York/LancasteHarrisburg, PA WSOX-FM 96.1 FM
Philadelphia Spanish Radio
Rickie Ricardo, Macu Berral and Gus Salazar will handle the broadcast in Spanish on Mega 105.7 FM in Philadelphia and the Eagles Spanish Radio Network.
Location Station Frequency
Philadelphia, PA LA MEGA 105.7 FM
Allentown, PA WSAN 1470 AM
Atlantic City, NJ WIBG 1020 AM; 101.3 FM
Redskins Radio
Redskins Radio Network Larry Michael (play-by-play), Sonny Jurgensen (color), Chris Cooley (analysis), Rick “Doc” Walker (sidelines).
National Radio
ESPN Radio (Adam Amin (play-by-play), Bill Polian (color), Sal Paolantonio (sidelines)
Satellite Radio
Station Eagles Channel Redskins Channel
Sirius Radio SIRI XX (Internet 825) XM 83 (Internet 831)
XM Radio XM XX (Internet 825) XM 83 (Internet 831)
Sirius XM Radio SXM XX (Internet 825) XM 83 (Internet 831)
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NFC East Standings
Team W L T Pct PF PA Net Pts TD H A Div Pct Conf Pct Non-Conf Strk Last 5
Cowboys 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 N/A 0-0
Giants 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 N/A 0-0
Redskins 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 N/A 0-0
Eagles 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0-0 0-0 0-0 0.000 0-0 0.000 0-0 N/A 0-0
Series Information
The Washington Redskins lead the Philadelphia Eagles (86-73-5)
Series History
Head to Head Box Scores
First Game Played
October 21st, 1934 at Fenway Park in Boston, MA. Boston Redskins 6 - Philadelphia Eagles 0
Points Leader
The Phialdelphia Eagles lead the Washington Redskins ((3449-3302))
Coaches Record
Doug Pederson: 0-2 against the Redskins
Jay Gruden: 5-1 against Eagles
Coaches Head to Head
Doug Pederson vs Jay Gruden: Gruden leads 2-0
Quarterback Record
Carson Wentz: Against Redskins: 0-2
Kirk Cousins: Against Eagles: 4-1
Quarterbacks Head to Head
Carson Wentz vs Kirk Cousins: Cousins leads 2-0
Records per Stadium
Record @ Lincoln Financial Field: Eagles lead the Redskins: 7-6
Record @ FedEx Field: Eagles lead the Redskins: 11-6
Rankings and Last Meeting Information
AP Pro 32 Ranking
Eagles No. 17 - Redskins No. 21
Preseason Record
Eagles: 2-2
Redskins: 2-2
Last Meeting
Sunday, Dec 16, 2016
Redskins 27 - Eagles 22
DeSean Jackson caught a 80 yard TD pass from Kirk Cousins and Eagles struggle in their second game without Lane Johnson
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Last Meeting at Site
Sunday Sept 20, 2016
Redskins 27 - Eagles 20
Redskins WR Jamison Crowder had a 16 yd TD. Matt Jones had a career game with 135 yards and 1 TD.
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Last 10 Meetings
Date Winner Loser Score
12/11/2016 Redksins Eagles 27-22
10/16/2016 Redskins Eagles 27-20
12/26/2015 Redskins Eagles 38-24
10/04/2015 Redskins Eagles 23-20
12/20/2014 Redskins Eagles 27-24
09/21/2014 Eagles Redskins 37-34
11/17/2013 Eagles Redskins 24-16
09/09/2013 Eagles Redskins 33-27
12/23/2012 Redskins Eagles 27-20
11/18/2012 Redskins Eagles 31-6
Injury Reports Depth Charts
Eagles Eagles
Redksins Redksins
2016 Weekly Matchup
Week 1 - Iron Rank Matchup
Week 1 - "Expert" Picks
Week 1 - Sporting Charts Matchup
2016 Team Stats
Eagles Season Stats
Redskins Season Stats
2016 Stats (Starters/Leaders)
Passing
Name CMP ATT PCT YDS TD INT RAT
Wentz 369 607 62.4% 3782 16 14 79.3
Cousins 406 606 67.0% 4917 25 12 97.2
Rushing
Name ATT YDS YDS/G AVG TD
Blount (w/ Patriots) 299 1161 72.6 3.9 18
Sproles 94 438 29.2 4.7 2
Kelley 168 704 46.9 4.2 6
Receiving
Name REC YDS YDS/G AVG TD
Ertz 78 816 58.3 10.5 4
Jeffrey (w/ Bears) 52 821 68.4 15.8 2
Crowder 50 796 15.9 66.3 8
Pryor (w/Browns) 77 1007 13.1 62.9 4
Sacks
Name Sacks Team Total
Cox 6.5 34.0
Kerrigan 11 38.0
Tackles
Name Total Solo Assist Sacks
Bradham 102 69 33 2
Foster 124 89 35 1
Interceptions
Name Ints Team Total
Hicks 5 16
Breeland/Norman 3 13
Punting
Name ATT YDS LONG AVG NET IN 20 TB BP
D. Jones 63 2888 72 45.8 40.7 20 6 0
T. Way 49 2209 61 45.1 38.9 15 4 0
Kicking
Name ATT MADE % LONG PAT
Sturgis 41 35 85.4% 55 30/31
Hopkins 42 34 81.0% 53 36/39
Kick Returns
Name ATT YDS AVG LONG TD
Smallwood 9 261 29.0 86 1
Thompson 17 360 21.2 28 0
Punt Returns
Name RET YDS AVG LONG TD FC
Sproles 17 224 13.2 66 0 12
Crowder 27 328 12.1 85 1 6
League Rankings 2016
Offense Rankings
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Redskins Stat Redskins Rank
Total Offense 337.4 22nd 403.4 3rd
Rush Offense 113.3 11th 106.0 21st
Pass Offense 224.1 24th 297.4 2nd
Points Per Game 22.9 16th 24.8 12th
3rd-Down Offense 38.0 20th 45.0 5th
4th-Down Offense 48.0 17th 50.0 T-14th
Red Zone Offense (TD%) 49.1% 25th 45.9% 29th
Defense Rankings
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Redskins Stat Redskins Rank
Total Defense 342.8 13th 377.9 28th
Rush Defense 103.3 15th 119.8 24th
Pass Defense 239.5 13th 258.1 25th
Points Per Game 20.7 12th 23.9 19th
3rd-Down Defense 40.0 T-19th 46.6 32nd
4th-Down Defense 44.4 12th 56.3 T-20th
Red Zone Offense (TD%) 44.9% 3rd 54.0% 15th
Team
Category Eagles Stat Eagles Rank Redskins Stat Redskins Rank
Turnover Diff. +6 T-7th 0 T-17th
Penalty Per Game 6.2 5th 6.3 7th
Penalty Yards Per Game 52.3 T-6th 63.9 28th
Notable Moments
The Body Bag Game - Video - On October 21, the 3–2 Redskins beat the 2–3 Eagles 13–7, behind a rushing touchdown by Gerald Riggs and two Chip Lohmiller field goals. The rematch would come three weeks later, on Monday Night Football, with the second-place Redskins being 5–3 and the third-place Eagles being 4–4.Eagles defeated the Redskins, 28–14. Its nickname comes from the fact that nine Washington Redskins players left the game with injuries, and an Eagles player reacted to one of those injured Redskins by yelling, "Do you guys need any more body bags?" However, the Redskins beat the Eagles later that season in a divisional playoff game.
November 15th, 2010 - Video - In Week 10 of the 2010 NFL Season, then-Eagles quarterback Michael Vick put on a show for the ages throwing four touchdown passes and adding two more on the ground in what is one of the most dominant single-game performances in NFL History.
Forgotten Redskins-Eagles Game - On Dec. 7, 1941, the Redskins and Eagles played at D.C.’s Griffith Stadium in what has been called the most forgotten football game. The Redskins beat the Eagles, 20-14, in a meaningless game in terms of a postseason bid. But the day it was played is monumental in U.S. history. As President Franklin D. Roosevelt proclaimed, Dec. 7, 1941 will “live in infamy." Around game time at 2 p.m. ET (8 a.m. PT), the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor in Hawaii, the first time a foreign nation had attacked U.S. soil in nearly 130 years. Midway through the first quarter, the public address announcer began sending strange messages over the loud speaker, urging military officers, government officials and diplomats to leave the game and report to their offices in Washington. As the messages became more and more frequent, a curiosity grew among the 27,102 fans at Griffith and players from both teams.Everyone was wondering what was happening but could only guess because Redskins management, which had learned about the Japanese attack through a telegraph message, refused to make an official announcement despite the horror of the moment and the inevitability of America going to war. By the third quarter, almost every news photographer had left the stadium, as well as thousands of spectators, and the game ended in almost complete silence. When owner George Preston Marshall was asked to explain his decision for withholding the information, the Redskins’ entertainment-conscious owner said, “I didn’t want to divert the fans’ attention from the game.”
Connections
Redskins offensive coordinator Matt Cavanaugh played forthe Eagles from 1986-89.
Redskins OL coach Bill Callahanheld the same title with the Eagles from 1995-97.
Eagles defensive quality control/asst. DL coach Phillip Daniels played for the Redskins from 2004-10.
Redskins asst.special teams coach Bret Munsey served as a national scout with the Eagles in 2013.
LS Rick Lovato briefly signed with the Redskins during the 2016 season for two weeks.
Redskins Outside Linebackers Coach Chad Grimm worked with Eagles Offensive Coordinator Frank Reich for the Arizona Cardinals in 2012. Grimm also worked with Reich for the San Diego Chargers from 2013-14.
Redskins Defensive Coordinator Greg Manusky (2007-10) and Defensive Line Coach Jim Tomsula (2007-15) worked with Eagles Special Teams Coordinator Dave Fipp (2008-10) for the San Francisco 49ers.
Manusky played with Eagles Assistant Offensive Line/Tight Ends Coach Eugene Chung on the Kansas City Chiefs from 1998-99.
Redskins Running backs Coach Randy Jordan also played with Chung on the Jacksonville Jaguars in 1995.
Redskins Manusky and Tomsula worked for the San Francisco 49ers while Eagles S Chris Maragos played there in 2010.
Eagles WR Torrey Smith played for the San Francisco 49ers (2015-16) when Redskins Quarterbacks Coach Kevin O’Connell 2016) and Tomsula (2015) worked for the 49ers.
Eagles Special Teams Coordinator Dave Fipp worked with Redskins Wide Receivers Coach Ike Hilliard worked with the Miami Dolphins in 2011. Hilliard also worked for the Buffalo Bills while Eagles LB Nigel Bradham played there in 2013.
Eagles Quarterbacks Coach John DeFilippo worked with Redskins Special Teams Coordinator Ben Kotwica, Assistant Head Coach/ Offensive Line Coach Bill Callahan and Offensive Coordinator Matt Cavanaugh with the Jets in 2009.
Eagles Quarterbacks Coach John DeFilippo worked with Redskins Quarterbacks Coach Kevin O’Connell with the Cleveland Browns in 2015.
Redskins Defensive Quality Control Cannon Matthews (2013) and O’Connell (2015) worked together with Eagles Linebackers Coach Ken Flajole (2013-15) for the Cleveland Browns. Matthews also worked for the Tennessee Titans while Eagles G Chance Warmack played there from 2014-15.
Eagles Wide Receivers Coach Mike Groh worked with Offensive Coordinator Matt Cavanaugh or the Chicago Bears from 2013-14. Cavanaugh worked for the Chicago Bearswhile Eagles WR Alshon Jeffery played there from 2013-14.
Pro Bowlers
Eagles Redskins
OT Jason Peters (Starter) OT Trent Williams (Starter)
DT Fletcher Cox (Starter) TE Jordan Reed (Starter)
DE Brandon Graham (1st Alt) G Brandon Scherff (Starter)
FS Rodney McLeod (1st Alt) OLB Ryan Kerrigan (Starter)
PR Darren Sproles (1st Alt) QB Kirk Cousins (1st Alt)
C Jason Kelce (2nd Alt) CB Josh Norman (1st Alt)
ST Chris Maragos (2nd Alt) Jamison Crowder (2nd Alt)
General
Referee: Brad Allen
Washington has earned five consecutive victories against Philadelphia, dating back to 2014. The Eagles will try to break that streak Sunday and prevent the Redskins from recording their first six-game winning streak in the series since the 1981-84 seasons.
The last time Philadelphia defeated Washington on the road was on Sept. 9, 2013 (W, 33-27) in Chip Kelly's first NFL game.
The Eagles led the NFL in average time of possession (32:16) last season.
The Eagles were the only team to record multiple kickoff return TDs last season (2)
Sunday’s season opener between the Redskins and the Eagles will mark the 165th overall meeting between the division rivals.This is the 164th regular season meeting between the two franchises, not including two meetings in 1943 when the Eagles merged with the Steelers to form the PhilPitt Steagles.
Draft Picks
Eagles Redskins
DE Derek Barnett DE Jonathan Allen
CB Sidney Jones LB Ryan Anderson
CB Rasul Douglas CB Fabian Moreau
WR Mack Hollins RB Samaje Perine
RB Donnel Pumphrey S Montae Nicholson
WR Shelton Gibson TE Jeremy Sprinkle
LB Nathan Gerry C Chase Roullier
DT Elijah Qualls WR Robert Davis
S Josh Harvey-Clemons
CB Joshua Holsey
Notable Off-season Free Agents
Eagles Redskins
WR Torrey Smith DT Stacy McGee
WR Alshon Jeffery DT Terrell McClain
DE Chris Long SS DJ Swearinger
DT Timmy Jernigan WR Terrell Pryor
RB LaGarrett Blount LB Zach Brown
CB Patrick Robinson OLB Chris Carter
G Chance Warmack WR Brian Quick
QB Nick Foles
Notable Off-season Free-Agent Departures
Eagles Redskins
CB Nolan Carroll WR DeSean Jackson
DE Connor Barwin WR Pierre Garçon
DT Bernie Logan DE Chris Baker
QB Chase Daniel DE Ricky Jean-Francois
CB Leodis McKelvin SS Duke Ihenacho
WR Dorial Green-Beckham LB Terence Garvin
DE Marcus Smith C John Sullivan
RB Ryan Mathews
Milestones
QB Carson Wentz (3,782 - 16th) can make a move up to 15th place on the Eagles' All-Time Passing Yards list with 525 more passing yards.
QB Carson Wentz (3,782) needs 218 more yards to reach 4000 career passing yards.
TE Brent Celek (4,859) needs 132 more yards to reach 5000 career receiving yards.
RB Darren Sproles (19,011 - 8th) is 8th on the NFL's All-Time All-Purpose Yards list. He can move into 7th place with 170 more yards. Passing Steve Smith Sr. who retired last season
DE Brandon Graham (29.0 - 17th) needs 1.0 Sacks to pass DT Jerome Brown (29.5 - 16th) on the Eagles All-Time Sack List. 1.0 Sacks will also give Graham 30 Career Sacks
DE Fletcher Cox (28.5 - 18th) needs 1.5 Sacks to pass DE Brandon Graham (29.0 - 17th) and DT Jerome Brown (29.5 - 16th) on the Eagles All-Time Sack List. 1.5 Sacks will also give Cox 30 Career Sacks
S Malcolm Jenkins's (4) needs 1 more Interception for a TD to tie CB Eric Allen (5) for most Interceptions for a TD by an Eagles player. Jenkins is the only Eagles player to have a pick 6 in 3 straight seasons
QB Kirk Cousins (12113 6th) needs 239 more yards to move up to 5th on the all-time Redskins passing list moving ahead of Billy Kilmer (12352).
DE Ryan Kerrigan (58.5) needs 1.5 more sacks to reach 60 sacks.
TE Jordan Reed (2602) needs 101 yards to pass DeSean Jackson for 16th on the all-time Redskins receiving yards list.
Pro Football Focus WR vs. CB Matchup Charts Courtesy of PFF Edge
Philadelphia WRs vs Washington Corners
Team WDB Ht Wt 40 Rt% Left% Slot% Right% %TaRte Cth% YPRYPRC Gr
PHI Jeffery 75 218 4.48 465 51% 18% 31% 21% 55% 1.86 77.8
WAS Norman 72 200 4.61 626 65% 8% 27% 27% 15% 1.09 0.8
PHI Agholor 72 198 4.42 567 32% 22% 45% 12% 54% 0.66 43.4
WAS Fuller 71 198 4.48 327 5% 90% 6% 18% 78% 1.76 51.5
PHI Smith 72 205 4.41 382 7% 18% 75% 13% 42% 0.70 44.7
WAS Breeland 71 195 4.62 433 14% 33% 53% 18% 62% 1.23 64.5
Washington WRs vs Philadelphia Corners
Team WDB Height Wt 40 Rt% Left% Slot% Right% %TaRte Cth% YPRYPRC Gr
WAS Pryor 76 228 631 42% 15% 42% 23% 57% 1.64 81.3
PHI Mills 72 191 4.61 422 61% 29% 10% 23% 61% 2.01 34.8
WAS Crowder 69 177 4.56 558 12% 75% 13% 17% 72% 1.57 70.9
PHI Robinson 71 191 4.46 244 43% 40% 17% 19% 57% 1.41 51.0
WAS Grant 72 204 4.64 127 32% 31% 37% 17% 50% 0.67 53.3
PHI Darby 71 193 4.38 413 92% 2% 5% 19% 59% 1.86 65.6
Matchups to Watch
The Redskins' new receivers vs. the Eagles' secondary
In recent seasons, DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon have gashed the Eagles defense and have played big roles in the Redskins 5 game winning streak against the Eagles. Both have moved on elsewhere, so it will be interesting to see how Pryor, Crowder and Docton due against a revamped Eagles secondary. And how Cousins fairs losing not one, but two 1000 yard receivers from last season. The gap definitely looks closer in previous years with the additions of Darby, Robinson and Douglas for the Eagles.
The Eagles' new receivers vs. the Redskins' secondary
A flip from the match up above, the Eagles WRs were arguably one of the worst receiving corps in the league last season, while the Redskins boost one of the top corners in Josh Norman. The Eagles only return one WR from that squad in Agholor, while adding former Pro Bowl WR Alshon Jeffery and speedy veteran Torrey Smith. Jeffery is coming off a injury plagued season and Smith is coming off a couple down seasons in San Francisco. Both came to Philadelphia hoping to bounce back. Jeffery is sure to see a heavy dose of Josh Norman, so it will be curious to see how Breeland, who isn't the fastest corner can match up against Smith, who proved he still has wheels on a 50 yard TD catch from Wentz in week 3 of the preseason. Speed isn't the strength of the Redskin safeties slated to start either. It will be an interesting matchup to say the least and has definitely closed the gap
Redskins OL vs. the Eagles front seven
The front seven was definitely the strength of the Eagles defense last season with Cox, Bradham, Hicks and Graham, the additions of Long, Jernigan, Barnett and a healthy Curry should only make that group stronger even with the losses of Barwin and Logan. On the flip side, the Redskins boost Pro Bowlers at Guard(Brandon Scherff) and LT(Trent Williams) with the other 3 members of that line being no slouches either. This is going to be a hard fought battle in the trenches that will be fun to watch.
Ryan Kerrigan vs. Lane Johnson
Ryan Kerrigan has been a thorn in the side of the Eagles ever since he came into the league with 9 sacks and 5 forced fumbles against the Birds. This thorn was was a real pain last season as the Eagles played both games with Lane Johnson on suspension. Kerrigan had a field day against Halapoulivaati Vaitai in his season debut and Matt Tobin didn't fare much better in the second game.
Shoutout to slumslum for doing these in past seasons and helping me with formatting. Also shoutout to MikeTysonChicken and abenyishay for their help in creating this.
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2017.09.02 00:01 bznew MLB All Underpaid team

Here is a list my buddy made of his all MLB underpaid team and I thought it might make for an interesting discussion: The All Underpaid Team
SP: Chris Archer- A lot of Options here, but based on age, Strikeouts, and control left, Mr. “Flaco Fuerte” is one of the biggest bargains in baseball. He would fetch a huge haul ever traded.
Contract: 6 Years/ 25 Million controlled through 2022 
RP: Felipe Rivero- in what was initially viewed as a huge win for the Nationals, the Mark Melancon trade is paying huge dividends for the Pirates. Rivero is turning himself into arguably the most dominate lefty in the game.
Contract: This season- 564,500 then arbitration through 2021 
CP: Rasiel Iglesias- Somewhat surprising here, Iglesias is the closer of the Reds and is under team control until 2021 at an AAV of 4.8 million for the next 3 years. He is straight up NASTY and he could either be the next great Reds closer, or be the biggest trade chip on the rebuilding Reds.
Contract: 7 Years/ 27 Million Controlled through 2021 
C: Salvador Perez- Perennial Gold Glove winner, All star, Silver Slugger, and the rock of one of the Leagues’ best teams, Salvi is about as elite as gets.
Contract: 6 Years/ 52.5 Million Controlled through 2022 
1B: Paul Goldschmidt- The best right handed hitter in the NL. Has made himself into a true 5 tool player, and is one of the few players adored by Sabermetrics and traditional stats communities.
Contract: 5 Years/ 32 Million Controlled through 2020 
2B: Jose Altuve- One of the true greats in baseball. Once unheralded but, like Goldy, has turned himself into a true five tool player. Well on his way to his second straight season with at least a 300 average, 200 hits, 20 homers, and 30 steals. A truly phenomenal player that is must watch TV.
Contract: 4 Years/ 12.5 Million Free agent 2020 
3B: Jedd Gyorko- A former top prospect for the San Diego Padres, Gyorko was signed to a contract extension in 2015 just in his second season in the big leagues. Jedd showed big time power, positional flexibility, and the Padres were banking on him blossoming into a future star. Instead he ends up being traded to St. Louis as basically a salary dump for the Padres. While in St. Louis, Jedd has developed into a star. Until Stanton’s power surge, Gyorko had the most home runs in the big leagues dating back to the second half of last season. Not bad for a player San Diego gave up on. Once viewed as a defensive liability, Jedd has developed into a Gold Glove caliber third baseman, trailing only Nolan Arenado in Defensive Runs Saved.
Contract: 5 years/ 31 million (San Diego paying 7.5 million of Gyorko’s contract) Controlled through 2021 
SS: Andrelton Simmons- “Simba” is arguably the best defensive shortstop in baseball. Signed to an extension by the Atlanta Braves, they banked that his offense would eventually catch up to his defense. After a change in direction as a team, the Braves traded Simba to the Angels for Starting pitching prospect Sean Newcombe. While Newcombe has looked good, this deal is starting to look very good for the Angels. In his age 27 season, Simmons is batting 288 with 14 home runs, 60 RBI, 19 stolen bases, and a 341 on base percentage to go along with 6.3 Wins Above Replacement. Simba is fully blossoming into a star this year.
Contract: 7 years/ 58 Million Controlled through 2021 
LF: Starling Marte- While a PED suspension this season has clouded his value, Starling Marte has been a star since signing an extension in 2014. Marte has added some pop to his bat to go along with his great speed and stellar defense, which led to the Pirates moving Andrew McCutchen to Right Field to give Marte a chance to play center. Last season was his best when he batted 311, with 9 homers, 46 RBI, a 362 OBP, and a whopping 49 Stolen Bases. While the suspension is a factor, Marte still takes the spot for best Left Field contract.
Contract: 6 years/ 31 Million, with two affordable club options to push the deal to 8 years and 55 Million. Controlled through 2022 
CF: Mike Trout- Look, there is a little LeBron James effect here. Even though Mike Trout signed a lucrative contract extension two seasons ago, he is still underpaid. The Best Player in Baseball can do it all, stellar defense, hits for power, average, drives in runs, steals bases, and gets on base. A true 5 tool player, he would command upwards of 40 million per year on the open market.
Contract: 6 years/ 144.5 Million Controlled through 2021 
RF: Bryce Harper- He will most likely not be on this for very long. Harper rivals Trout for the best player in baseball, he's just 24 years old, dynamic, and is also a true five tool player. Locked up to a 2 year 35.25 Million dollar contract to buy out his last two arbitration seasons, he is playing this season on a 13 Million dollar salary. Not bad for a perennial MVP candidate.
Contract: 2 Years/ 35.25 Million Controlled through 2019 
Honorable Mentions
Cory Kluber- 5 Years/ 38.5 Million
Christian Yelich- 7 Years/ 49.57 Million
Chris Sale- 5 Years/ 32.5 Million
Matt Carpenter- 6 Years/ 52 Million
Anthony Rizzo- 7 Years/ 41 Million
Jose Quintana- 5 Years/ 26.5 Million
Charlie Blackmon- 1 Yea 7.3 Million + Arbitration eligible next season
Link to source: https://www.therolloutsports.com/blog/2017/8/28/the-all-underpaid-team
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2017.08.05 14:23 feedreddit Innocence Is Irrelevant

Innocence Is Irrelevant
by Emily Yoffe via Master Feed : The Atlantic
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It had been a long night for Shanta Sweatt. After working a 16-hour shift cleaning the Tennessee Performing Arts Center, in Nashville, and then catching the 11:15 bus to her apartment, she just wanted to take a shower and go to sleep. Instead, she wound up having a fight with the man she refers to as her “so-called boyfriend.” He was a high-school classmate who had recently ended up on the street, so Sweatt had let him move in, under the proviso that he not do drugs in the apartment. Sweatt has a soft spot for people in trouble. Over the years, she had taken in many of her two sons’ friends, one of whom who had been living with them since his early teens.
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When Sweatt got home that night, early in November of last year, she realized that her boyfriend had been smoking marijuana, probably in front of the kids. She was furious, words were exchanged, and he left. Sweatt finally crawled into bed after midnight, only to be awakened at about 8:30 in the morning by an insistent knock at the door. She assumed that her boyfriend was coming to get his stuff and get out of her life.
When she opened the door, police officers filled the frame, and more were waiting at her back door. She could see that squad cars were swarming the parking lot. “There were 12 to 15 cars,” she told me. “For us.” An officer asked whether they could enter. As a resident of public housing, she wasn’t sure whether she had the right to say no. (She did.) But she was certain that if she refused them, they would come back. She had nothing to hide, so she let them in. “I didn’t get smart or give them a rough time,” she said. “I cooperated.”
Sweatt, who is black, didn’t know what had led the police to her door. Their report says a complaint had been made about drug dealing from the apartment. After entering, they began systematically searching her apartment. One officer yanked open a junk drawer in her bedroom dresser, and inside he found small baggies of marijuana, containing a total of about 25 grams—a weight equivalent to about six packets of sugar. There was also marijuana paraphernalia in the apartment. When the officer showed the baggies to her, Sweatt immediately knew they had to belong to her boyfriend, who—in addition to having just been smoking in her home—had past drug convictions.
Sweatt, 36 years old, left high school in 11th grade, but she has the kind of knowledge of the law that accrues to observant residents of James A. Cayce Homes, a housing project in East Nashville. “I’m the lease owner,” she told me. “Whatever was there, I would get blamed.” It seemed useless to her to say that the drugs must have belonged to her absent boyfriend, who had a common name and no fixed address. She believed that this would result in the police pinning the crime on her sons. Her 17-year-old was at school, but her 18-year-old, who worked on the cleaning crew with her, was home, along with the friend of his who lived with them. Sweatt told me, “I’ve seen that where I lived: The parents said no, so everyone in the house gets charged. I’m not going to let my children go down for someone else’s mistake. A parent should take ownership of what happens in the house.” So she made a quick and consequential decision. To protect her sons, she told the police that the marijuana belonged to her. “I said it was mine, and me and my homegirls were going on vacation to California. I said we were going to take the marijuana with us—I heard it was legal there—and we were going to smoke for a week or two, then come back to normal life.”
Sweatt told me this two months after her arrest. She and I were sitting in a conference room at the Metropolitan Public Defender’s Office, in downtown Nashville. She was dressed for work in a black sweatshirt, sweatpants, and sneakers. A large ring of keys attached to her belt bespoke her responsibilities as a janitorial supervisor at the arts center, just a few blocks away. I asked how she had come up with such a specific story on the spot. “It’s a dream,” she said. “I heard California is more lively, more fun, than Nashville. The beaches are pretty. The palm trees.” For a moment she looked as if she could actually see the surf. She was born and raised in East Nashville and has spent almost her entire life within the same few square miles. She had no plans to vacation in California, or anywhere else. “All I do is work and take care of my sons,” she said.
The police seemed to believe her story (the arrest warrant noted her upcoming trip) and drove her downtown, where they put her in a holding room. By 1 o’clock that afternoon, her bail had been set at $11,500. To be released, she needed to get $1,150 to a bail bondsman. She contacted a friend, and they each paid half. (“That’s gone,” she says.) She assumed she’d be out in time to get to work that evening, but the money didn’t clear until almost nine, minutes before she was to be sent to jail in shackles. A court date was set for January. Sweatt was facing serious charges with serious consequences, and she was advised to get an attorney.
The fallout began even before the court rendered judgment in her case. Under the rules of the housing agency, her arrest prompted her eviction, which scattered her family. Sweatt moved into a cheap motel, and her sons moved in with her mother, although she still managed to see them every day. She tried to get enough money together to hire what she calls “a regular lawyer,” meaning a private attorney, but failed. So in January she turned to the public defender’s office—a choice that many people in her situation make reluctantly. That’s because of the common misperception, I was told by Dawn Deaner, the head of the office, that public defenders are nothing more than “public pretenders” who are “paid to plead [their clients] guilty.”
Sweatt’s case was assigned to a lawyer named Ember Eyster. At their first meeting, Sweatt felt reassured. As she put it to me, “Ember wears a dress that says, I’m going to take you down!” During their 75-minute discussion, Eyster asked Sweatt what her goals were, and Sweatt responded with a big one: no incarceration. She couldn’t bear the idea of being away from her boys. At Eyster’s request, Sweatt gathered her time sheets from work and dropped them off at Eyster’s office. Eyster planned to use them as evidence that Sweatt was too busy mopping the floors at the arts center day and night to be a drug trafficker.
The next time Eyster and Sweatt saw each other was two weeks later, in court. Sweatt had been charged with a Class D felony, which carried a two-to-12-year prison sentence, and a misdemeanor related to the paraphernalia. Exactly what punishment she would face depended largely on how the district attorney’s office weighed several factors. First, there was her confession. Second, there was the police account of the circumstances of the arrest. Third, there was the fact that she lived within 1,000 feet of an elementary school, which meant it was possible that the charges against her would be “enhanced.” Finally, there was the fact that she already had a criminal history. In years past, she had pleaded guilty to several minor misdemeanors (most for driving with a suspended license) and one felony. The felony conviction resulted from her involvement in a 2001 robbery at a Jack in the Box. As Sweatt tells it, friends had discussed committing a robbery at the restaurant, where she worked, and then surprised her by actually carrying one out. She was arrested and pleaded guilty to a charge of “facilitation,” and in exchange got three years of probation. “I have never gotten into trouble since,” she told me, “except for driving without a license.” She now relies on the bus.
Eyster believed that Sweatt was innocent of the drug charges against her. “This is a hardworking woman who lived in a heavily policed community for 10 years,” she told me. “If she were a drug dealer, she would have already been evicted. She doesn’t have a history of drug use.” But the idea of taking this case to trial was a nonstarter. The best path forward, Eyster decided, was to humanize Sweatt to the prosecutor—hence those time sheets—and then try to negotiate a plea bargain. In exchange for a guilty plea, the prosecutor might not recommend a prison sentence.
The strategy worked. The prosecutor reduced the charge from a felony to a Class A misdemeanor and offered Sweatt a six-month suspended sentence (meaning she wouldn’t have to serve any of it) with no probation. Her paraphernalia charge was dismissed, and her conviction would result in a fine and fees that totaled $1,396.15.
Upon hearing the news, Sweatt embraced Eyster and wept with joy. Then she stood before the judge and pleaded guilty to a crime she says she did not commit.
This is theage of the plea bargain. Most people adjudicated in the criminal-justice system today waive the right to a trial and the host of protections that go along with one, including the right to appeal. Instead, they plead guilty. The vast majority of felony convictions are now the result of plea bargains—some 94 percent at the state level, and some 97 percent at the federal level. Estimates for misdemeanor convictions run even higher. These are astonishing statistics, and they reveal a stark new truth about the American criminal-justice system: Very few cases go to trial. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy acknowledged this reality in 2012, writing for the majority in Missouri v. Frye, a case that helped establish the right to competent counsel for defendants who are offered a plea bargain. Quoting a law-review article, Kennedy wrote, “ ‘Horse trading [between prosecutor and defense counsel] determines who goes to jail and for how long. That is what plea bargaining is. It is not some adjunct to the criminal justice system; it is the criminal justice system.’ ”
Ideally, plea bargains work like this: Defendants for whom there is clear evidence of guilt accept responsibility for their actions; in exchange, they get leniency. A time-consuming and costly trial is avoided, and everybody benefits. But in recent decades, American legislators have criminalized so many behaviors that police are arresting millions of people annually—almost 11 million in 2015, the most recent year for which figures are available. Taking to trial even a significant proportion of those who are charged would grind proceedings to a halt. According to Stephanos Bibas, a professor of law and criminology at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, the criminal-justice system has become a “capacious, onerous machinery that sweeps everyone in,” and plea bargains, with their swift finality, are what keep that machinery running smoothly.
Because of plea bargains, the system can quickly handle the criminal cases of millions of Americans each year, involving everything from petty violations to violent crimes. But plea bargains make it easy for prosecutors to convict defendants who may not be guilty, who don’t present a danger to society, or whose “crime” may primarily be a matter of suffering from poverty, mental illness, or addiction. And plea bargains are intrinsically tied up with race, of course, especially in our era of mass incarceration.
Shanta Sweatt and her two sons in front of the James A. Cayce Homes, where she was arrested (Nina Robinson) As prosecutors have accumulated power in recent decades, judges and public defenders have lost it. To induce defendants to plead, prosecutors often threaten “the trial penalty”: They make it known that defendants will face more-serious charges and harsher sentences if they take their case to court and are convicted. About 80 percent of defendants are eligible for court-appointed attorneys, including overworked public defenders who don’t have the time or resources to even consider bringing more than a tiny fraction of these cases to trial. The result, one frustrated Missouri public defender complained a decade ago, is a style of defense that is nothing more than “meet ’em and greet ’em and plead ’em.”
According to the Prison Policy Initiative, 630,000 people are in jail on any given day, and 443,000 of them—70 percent—are in pretrial detention. Many of these defendants are facing minor charges that would not mandate further incarceration, but they lack the resources to make bail and secure their freedom. Some therefore feel compelled to take whatever deal the prosecutor offers, even if they are innocent.
Writing in 2016 in the William & Mary Law Review, Donald Dripps, a professor at the University of San Diego School of Law, illustrated the capricious and coercive nature of plea bargains. Dripps cited the case of Terrance Graham, a black 16-year-old who, in 2003, attempted to rob a restaurant with some friends. The prosecutor charged Graham as an adult, and he faced a life sentence without the possibility of parole at trial. The prosecutor offered Graham a great deal in exchange for a guilty plea: one year in jail and two more years of probation. Graham took the deal. But he was later accused of participating in another robbery and violated his probation—at which point the judge imposed the life sentence.
What’s startling about this case, Dripps noted, is that Graham faced two radically different punishments for the same crime: either be put away for life or spend minimal time behind bars in exchange for a guilty plea. In 2010, the Supreme Court ruled, in Graham v. Florida, that the punishment Graham faced at trial was so cruel and unusual as to be unconstitutional. The Court found that a juvenile who did not commit homicide cannot face life without parole.
Thanks in part to plea bargains, millions of Americans have a criminal record; in 2011, the National Employment Law Project estimated that figure at 65 million. It is a mark that can carry lifetime consequences for education, employment, and housing. Having a record, even for a violation that is trivial or specious, means a person can face tougher charges and punishment if he or she again encounters the criminal-justice system. Plea bargaining has become so coercive that many innocent people feel they have no option but to plead guilty. “Our system makes it a rational choice to plead guilty to something you didn’t do,” Maddy deLone, the executive director of the Innocence Project, told me. The result, according to the late Harvard law professor William J. Stuntz, who wrote extensively about the history of plea bargains in The Collapse of American Criminal Justice (2011), is a system that has become “the harshest in the history of democratic government.”
To learn more about how plea bargaining works in America today, I went to Nashville, where Shanta Sweatt entered her plea. A blue county in a red state, Davidson County, which includes Nashville, has a population of about 680,000. According to District Attorney Glenn Funk, Nashville–Davidson County handles about 100,000 criminal cases a year, 70 percent of which are misdemeanors, 30 percent felonies. Last year, attorneys in the public defender’s office dealt with 20,000 misdemeanors and 4,900 felony cases. Of all the defendants processed in Nashville–Davidson County last year, only 86 had their cases resolved at trial.
During my week in Nashville, I attended hearings at the courthouse on a full range of cases. I sat in on the plea discussions between an assistant district attorney and two public defenders. I observed a public defender in conversation with jailed defendants facing felony charges. I saw justice meted out courtroom by courtroom, often determined in part by the attitude, even the mood, of the prosecutor. My experience may not have been representative, but over the course of five days, I saw few defendants who had harmed someone else. Those who were facing felony charges had been arrested for drug offenses; some were clearly addicts with mental-health problems.
I started with the misdemeanor-citation docket, which covers the lowest-level offenses. The defendants on the courtroom benches were white, black, and Latino. Sartorial guidelines were posted on the doors: no “see-through blouses,” no “exposed underwear,” no “sagging pants.” Ember Eyster, Shanta Sweatt’s attorney, was at the courthouse, but very few of the defendants in court that day had requested the services of a public defender or were accompanied by a lawyer.
Misdemeanors are lesser offenses than felonies and are supposed to result in limited penalties. In Tennessee, Class A misdemeanors are sometimes referred to as 1129s: convictions that carry a maximum sentence of 11 months and 29 days. Many people convicted of misdemeanors are given probation or a suspended sentence or simply “time served”—that is, the amount of time they spent waiting in jail for their case to be heard because they couldn’t make bond. The most-minor offenses can result in being required to take a class or do community service. Getting put through the system often also means accruing fines, fees, and court costs, which in a single case can run to more than $1,000. The punishments are not designed to be severe, or to create long-lasting consequences. But for many people they do.
Nashville–Davidson County’s courthouse, in downtown Nashville (Nina Robinson) Millions of people each year are now processed for misdemeanors. In a 2009 report titled “Minor Crimes, Massive Waste,” the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers described a system characterized by “the ardent enforcement of crimes that were once simply deemed undesirable behavior and punished by societal means or a civil infraction punishable by a fine.”
In Nashville, I was struck by how many people were in court because they had been picked up for driving with a suspended license. It’s a common practice, I learned, for states to suspend the licenses of people who have failed to pay court costs, traffic fines, or child support. In 2011, for example, Tennessee passed a law requiring the suspension of licenses for nonpayment of certain financial obligations. Both Glenn Funk, who must enforce this law, and Dawn Deaner, the head of the public defender’s office, agree that it’s absurd, in part because the scheme is almost perfectly designed to prevent the outcome it seeks. If people stop driving when their licenses are suspended, they may no longer be able to reliably get to work, which means they risk losing their jobs and going deeper into debt. As a result, many people whose licenses have been suspended drive anyway, putting themselves in constant jeopardy of racking up misdemeanor convictions. It is common for defendants charged with such minor infractions to represent themselves, even if they don’t understand the consequences of pleading guilty, and even if there might be some mitigating circumstances that an attorney could argue on their behalf. Plead guilty to enough suspended-license misdemeanors, and a subsequent charge can be a felony.
Funk, who was elected in 2014, has stopped routinely jailing defendants arrested for driving with a suspended license. “Most of the time, driver’s licenses are revoked because of poverty,” he told me. “I want people to have a license. It gives them ownership in society.” Deaner told me that about two-thirds of the people listed on the citation docket are on there because of a driver’s-license violation. And once their names are on the docket, the system strongly encourages them to plead guilty. “It’s a hamster wheel of bureaucracy,” she said, “that does no one any good.”
Plea bargains didn’t exist in colonial America. Law books, lawyers, and prosecutors were rare. Most judges had little or no legal training, and victims ran their own cases (with the self-evident exception of homicides). Trials were brief, and people generally knew one another. By the 19th century, however, our modern criminal-justice system was coming into its own: Professional prosecutors emerged, more defendants hired lawyers to represent them, and the courts developed more-formal rules for evidence. Trials went from taking minutes or hours to lasting days. Calendars became clogged, which gave judges an incentive to start accepting pleas. “Suddenly, everybody operating inside the system is better off if you have these pleas,” Penn’s Stephanos Bibas told me.
The advantages of plea bargains became even clearer in the latter part of the 20th century, after the Supreme Court, under Chief Justice Earl Warren, issued a series of decisions, between 1953 and 1969, that established robust protections for criminal defendants. These included the landmark Gideon v. Wainwright and Miranda v. Arizona decisions, the former of which guaranteed the Sixth Amendment right to counsel in felony cases (since expanded to some misdemeanor cases), and the latter of which required that police inform those in their custody of the right to counsel and against self-incrimination. The Court’s rulings had the inevitable effect of making trials lengthier and more burdensome, so prosecutors began turning more frequently to plea bargains. Before the 1960s, according to William J. Stuntz, between one-fourth and one-third of state felony charges led to a trial. Today the figure is one-twentieth.
The legal system provides few rules and protections for those who take a deal. In what has been described as one of the Court’s earliest plea-bargain decisions, Brady v. United States (1970), the justices found that guilty pleas were acceptable as long as certain conditions were met, among them the following: Defendants had to have competent counsel; they had to face no threats, misrepresentations, or improper promises; and they had to be able to make their plea “intelligently.”
This seemed eminently fair. But crime had already started to increase sharply. The rise provoked a get-tough response from police, prosecutors, and legislators. As the rate of violent crime continued to accelerate, fueled in part by the crack epidemic that started in the ’80s, the response got even tougher. By the 1990s, the U.S. had entered what Donald Dripps calls “a steroid era in criminal justice,” which continued even though violent crime peaked by 1992 and began its now-historic decline. In the late 20th century, legislators passed mandatory-minimum-sentence and “three strikes” laws, which gave prosecutors an effective bludgeon they could use to induce plea bargains. (Some “three strikes” laws result in life imprisonment for a third felony; hundreds of people in California received this punishment for shoplifting. California reformed its three-strikes legislation in 2012 to impose such punishments only for serious or violent felonies.)
The growth of the system took on a life of its own. “No one sets out to create bloated criminal codes,” I was told by David Carroll, the executive director of the Sixth Amendment Center, which protects the right to counsel. “But once they exist, vast resources are spent to justify them.” In response to the crime wave, the United States significantly expanded police forces to catch criminals, prosecutor’s offices to charge them, and the correctional system to incarcerate them. Legislators have added so many acts to criminal codes that in 2013, Neil Gorsuch—now on the Supreme Court, but then an appellate judge—publicly raised concerns. In a speech sponsored by the Federalist Society, he asked, “What happens to individual freedom and equality—and to our very conception of law itself—when the criminal code comes to cover so many facets of daily life that prosecutors can almost choose their targets with impunity?”
One morning inNashville, I sat at the prosecutor’s table with Emily Todoran, an assistant district attorney, and Ryann Casey and Megan Geer, two young public defenders. (Geer has since left for a private criminal-defense firm.) Before us was a two-inch stack of paperwork that included police reports on everyone who had been picked up the night before, for a variety of misdemeanor violations. None of those arrested had made bond (“Basically, it’s all homeless offenses,” Geer said), so everyone whose case was being assessed was waiting in jail.
Police officers have wide discretion in deciding whether a person is breaking the law, and they sometimes arrest people for such offenses as sleeping in public and sitting too long on a bench. One case involved a woman whose crime seemed to have been, in the words of the officer who filed the report, “walking down the road around 1:30 a.m.” with “no legitimate reason.” Casey told me before this meeting that she hoped to get all such cases dismissed. “Walking down the street!” she said. “Imagine if it was you.”
Ember Eyster told me it’s sometimes possible to get misdemeanor cases dismissed with a bit of investigation. Maybe a trespassing charge doesn’t hold up, for example, because the property owner hadn’t posted a no trespassing sign. But this takes time, and clients who can’t make bond have to sit in jail until the job is done. It’s a choice few are willing to make for the small chance of avoiding a conviction. Many clients tell Eyster as soon as they meet her that they want to plead guilty and get time served.
The choice makes sense under the circumstances. But anybody who makes it is incurring a debt to society that’s hard, sometimes impossible, to repay. Those with a conviction in the United States can be denied public housing, professional licenses, and student loans. Many employers ask whether job applicants have been convicted of a crime, and in our zero-tolerance, zero-risk society, it’s rational to avoid those who have.
People with a misdemeanor conviction who get picked up for another minor offense are more likely to face subsequent conviction—and that, according to Issa Kohler-Hausmann, an associate professor of law and sociology at Yale, is part of a deliberate strategy. Kohler-Hausmann made this case in a provocative 2014 Stanford Law Review article, “Managerial Justice and Mass Misdemeanors,” about the rise of misdemeanor arrests in New York City, which occurred even as felony arrests fell. Authorities, she argued, tend to pay “little attention” to assessing “guilt in individual cases.” Instead, they use a policy of “mass misdemeanors” to manage people who live in “neighborhoods with high crime rates and high minority populations.” These defendants, she wrote, are moved through the criminal-justice system with little opportunity to make a case for themselves. They are simply being processed, and the “mode of processing cases” is plea bargaining. (This year, New York City settled a federal class-action lawsuit against it for issuing hundreds of thousands of unjustified criminal summonses.)
Sitting at the prosecutor’s table that morning, I watched Todoran, Casey, and Geer read from the police reports and make deals. Such a ritual takes place, in one form or another, in the courts of each of the country’s more than 3,000 counties, which make up what the Fordham University law professor John Pfaff has described in his book Locked In as “a vast patchwork of systems that vary in almost every conceivable way.” We know little about what happens in these negotiations. Trials leave copious records, but many plea bargains leave little written trace. Instead, they are sometimes worked out in hurried hallway conversations—or, as I witnessed, in brief courtroom conferences.
casey: He was lying across a sidewalk over a vent, because it was cold.
todoran: Dismiss it. You’ve got to sleep somewhere.
casey: This one is for standing in front of a liquor store.
todoran: Dismiss. For so many of these things, a few hours in jail is punishment enough.
geer: This defendant was found in a car with marijuana and 0.7 grams of crack.
todoran: I guess we’ll do time served.
casey: This man was at Tiger Mart. He was warned to leave earlier, and then came back.
todoran: Thirty days suspended and stay away from Tiger Mart.
casey: This case, an officer heard him yelling and cussing and arrested him by the rescue mission.
todoran: Dismiss.
geer: This is my favorite—the woman who was walking down the road.
todoran: Dismiss.For many of the cases, Todoran was making her decision in less than a minute. I felt I was watching justice dispensed at the pace of speed dating.
Critics on the left and the right are coming to agree that our criminal-justice system, now so reliant on plea bargaining, is broken. Among them is Jed S. Rakoff, a United States district judge for the Southern District of New York, who wrote about the abuses of plea bargains in 2014, in TheNew York Review of Books. “A criminal justice system that is secret and government-dictated,” he wrote, “ultimately invites abuse and even tyranny.” Some critics even argue that the practice should be abolished. That’s what Tim Lynch, the former director of the Project on Criminal Justice at the libertarian Cato Institute, believes. The Framers adopted trials for a reason, he has argued, and replacing them with plea bargains—for convenience, no less—is unconstitutional.
But plea bargains aren’t going away, so reformers have practical suggestions for improving them. Bibas wants a “consumer-protection model.” Shoppers, he told me, have more safeguards when making a credit-card purchase than defendants do when pleading guilty. He wants pleas to clearly explain several things: exactly what defendants are pleading to, what obligations (classes, probation) defendants are incurring, what the consequences of their failing to follow through would be, and what potential effects a guilty plea could have on their lives. He has also suggested a “cooling off” period before a defendant takes a plea in serious cases. Stuntz suggested giving those who plead guilty the same protections that are offered in the military system of justice. Before accepting a plea, military judges conduct inquiries to ensure that pleas were not made under duress, and that the facts support them. This, Stuntz argued, would shift some power from prosecutors back to judges and make pleas more legitimate, which in turn would produce “a large social gain.”
Ember Eyster believed that Shanta Sweatt was innocent, but the idea of taking her case to trial was a nonstarter (Nina Robinson). No amount of tinkering, however, will matter much unless Americans stop trying to use the criminal-justice system as a tool for managing social ills. “Why are these cases being pumped into the system in the first place?,” Bibas said to me. He’s not alone in asking. Across the country, in red states and blue states, reformist state and district attorneys have recently been elected on platforms of rolling back harsh sentencing, reducing the enforcement of marijuana laws, and knocking down crimes from felonies to misdemeanors. And change is happening. Last year, for example, the New York City Council passed legislation that made offenses such as public drinking and urination civil rather than criminal violations, and thus subject largely to tickets and fines.
Paring back our criminal code and eliminating many mandatory minimum sentences will be crucial to reform. In the long-running War on Drugs, the government has regularly prosecuted people for possessing small amounts of illegal substances, or for merely possessing drug paraphernalia. Often, on the basis of no evidence beyond a police officer’s assertion, officials have charged and prosecuted defendants for the more serious crime of “intent to sell.” But during Prohibition, when the manufacture, transport, and sale of alcohol were federal crimes, Americans were not arrested by the millions and incarcerated for drinking. And they certainly didn’t plead guilty to possessing martini glasses and other drinking paraphernalia.
To break the cycle, the United States will need to address the disparity in funding for the two sides of its legal system. According to Fordham’s John Pfaff, of the $200 billion spent on all criminal-justice activities by state and local governments in 2008, only 2 percent went to indigent defense. But the system needs more than just money, says Jonathan Rapping, who in 2014 won a MacArthur genius grant for his work as the founder of Gideon’s Promise, which trains and supports public defenders around the country—including those in Nashville. What’s necessary, Rapping argues, is a new mind-set. Defenders need to push back against the assumption that they will instantly plead out virtually every client, rubber-stamping the prosecutor’s offer. Ember Eyster did ultimately negotiate a plea bargain for Shanta Sweatt, but in doing so she pushed back, using all the tools at her disposal to ensure that Sweatt was not incarcerated.
The U.S. should also reform the bail system. We are holding people in jail simply because they lack the funds to secure their own release.
The public-housing complex from which Shanta Sweatt was evicted after her arrest. She now lives in a motel, apart from her sons (Nina Robinson). Making these sorts of changes would allow authorities at the federal, state, and local levels to allocate more resources to the underlying social problems that drive so many arrests. But reform will not be easy. Even though crime rates remain near historic lows nationally, Donald Trump’s administration has professed a desire to return to the days of “law and order.” U.S. Attorney General Jeff Sessions has announced, for instance, that he wants federal prosecutors to use maximum possible charges for crimes and to enforce mandatory minimums, which would result in harsh plea bargains. Almost all crime is handled not by the federal government but by the states, but with both the president and the country’s highest law-enforcement official inflaming public fears, advocates for change worry about the fate of the reform efforts set in motion during Barack Obama’s administration.
The United States is experiencing a criminal-justice crisis, just not the one the Trump administration talks about. By accepting the criminalization of everything, the bloat of the criminal-justice system, and the rise of the plea bargain, the country has guaranteed that millions of citizens will not have a fair shot at leading ordinary lives.
Before I left Nashville, I visited Shanta Sweatt at the Tennessee Performing Arts Center. It’s an enormous building of glass and concrete with multiple stages. Sweatt gave me a tour that started in the basement. As we made our way to the upper floors and the theaters, she gestured toward the banks of restrooms that she has to keep sparkling. “Thirty-eight stalls for women,” she said. “Thirty-eight stalls for men.”
Sweatt is still struggling with the consequences of her arrest. “If it weren’t for my boys,” she told me, “I would have given up a long time ago.” At the time of her arrest, she told her employers about her situation, and they rallied to support her. “They stood behind me. They said, ‘I got prayers for you.’ ” Because she wasn’t incarcerated, Sweatt was able to keep her job, and her dream is that one day she might be able to buy a house, which would allow her to live together again with her sons. In her mind’s eye, the house has three bedrooms, two bathrooms, and a yard, and it promises her and her family privacy and freedom. “Police mess with you in the projects,” she said. “You get off the bus, they follow you. They don’t mess with you in a house. I want to live like an average Joe.”
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2017.07.14 19:22 NFL_Top100 Official 2017 r/NFL Top 100 Players (of the 2016 Season) - #30-21

Happy Friday, everyone! Welcome to the NFL Top 100 Countdown!
Today we bring you Part VIII of our series, revealing players 30-21 as voted on by our rankers, as well as the Ranking Predictor for the players ranked 40-31.
Have you missed any of the previous days? CLICK HERE FOR THE RANKINGS HUB!
Now, for the Ranking Predictor for the players ranked 40-31 on Wednesday:
PLAYER RANKED BETTER RANKED ROUGHLY THE SAME RANKED WORSE
#40 - K.J. Wright, 4-3 OLB, Seattle Seahawks 4.88% 46.34% 48.78%
#39 - Cameron Jordan, 4-3 DE, New Orleans Saints 17.07% 46.34% 36.59%
#38 - Fletcher Cox, 4-3 DT, Philadelphia Eagles 34.15% 53.66% 12.20%
#37 - Joey Bosa, 3-4 DE, San Diego Chargers 78.05% 19.51% 2.44%
#36 - Ndamukong Suh, 4-3 DT, Miami Dolphins 14.63% 48.78% 36.59%
#35 - Andrew Luck, QB, Indianapolis Colts 48.78% 19.51% 31.71%
#34 - Greg Olsen, TE, Carolina Panthers 12.20% 24.39% 63.41%
#33 - Sean Lee, 4-3 OLB, Dallas Cowboys 9.76% 24.39% 65.85%
#32 - Brandon Graham, 4-3 DE, Philadelphia Eagles 4.88% 46.34% 48.78%
#31 - Devin McCourty, FS, New England Patriots 7.32% 39.02% 53.66%
Broken record time!
1- As always, these rankings are based 100% on the 2016 season, so all players are listed with their 2016 teams and cities. 2- And if you just can’t stand where we have [insert personal favorite player here] and if you think you can generate a better list you can always fill out your own Top 100 rankings here at the same form our rankers used. These lists so are pretty good, and we’ll release an aggregate of the with the post mortem on July 27th!
So, who’s excited for today’s list? I know I know, EVERYONE IS EXCITED!
Part VIII of the Top 100 Players (of the 2016 Season), players ranked #30-11, starts now!

#30 - T.Y. Hilton - WR - Indianapolis Colts - Previous Rank: N/R

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Written by imkunu
Perennially underrated in the first four years of his career, Colts WR Eugene "T.Y." Hilton exploded into the spotlight in 2014, firmly establishing himself as one of the top pass-catchers in the league. A remarkable 2016 campaign saw career highs for Hilton in targets (155), receptions (91), and yards (1448). His yardage total of 1448 was the highest in the NFL, and Hilton was the first Colt to lead the league in receiving since Reggie Wayne in 2007.
Through his first several years, Hilton was primarily labeled as a "burner" receiver whose sole purpose was to take the top off defenses and open up the middle. Now, Hilton has expanded to a more complete route tree, and is QB Andrew Luck's primary read on most passes.
Advanced statistics loved Hilton this year as well; PFF rated him as the 5th best receiver last season with the 5th highest pure receiving grade. Football Outsiders' stat DYAR saw Hilton ranked 4th.
The arrow is only pointing up for Hilton. In the five years of his career, he has shown a tremendous work ethic and drive to become a multi-dimensional receiving threat. With a career year behind him, Hilton looks to maintain his status as one of the best receivers in the NFL in 2017.

#29 - Andrew Whitworth - Tackle - Cincinnati Bengals - Previous Rank: 46

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(Ed. Note: We have two Whitworth writeups today because I goofed and lost track of dleonard’s and I asked yji to fill in. They both did the work, and the both deserve to be seen. - MJP)
Written by dleonard1122
The 29th spot in the nfl top 100 ranking is Andrew Whitworth, who despite turning 35 in December, turned in yet another excellent season. Starting every game in 2017 and a team captain for the Cincinnati Bengals, Whitworth only allowed a stingy 14 quarterback pressures despite pass blocking on 561 snaps. Pro Football Pocus (PFF) ranked Whitworth second among all left tackles in the league and named Whitworth the Bengals only ‘elite’ player for 2016. After week 5 of the season, Whitworth only allowed a single sack for the remained of the season en route to his third career Pro Bowl appearance (as a replacement for an injured Donald Penn) and second in as many years.
This ranking is based on Whitworth’s performance during the 2016 season, but I’d be remiss as a Ram’s fan if I didn’t include a short excerpt of why myself and so many Rams fans are excited about Whitworth.
After 11 seasons with the Bengals, Whitworth signed a 3 year, $36M contract with the Los Angeles Rams in the offseason. Whitworth will step into a left-tackle spot that was previously occupied by recently traded Greg Robinson, and instantly provide sophomore quarterback Jared Goff with some needed protection.
Written by yji
Andrew Whitworth is like a fine wine, he gets better with age. At 34, he had one of his best years yet, allowing only 14 pressures on the year on his way to another Pro Bowl season.
At 6'7 335, Whitworth is a huge OT, and he uses this size effectively. In pass protection he uses his size to control his opposition. A strong punch and velcro hands means you're never leaving his grasp once he's got his hands inside on you. Surprisingly at his size though, he's got quick feet and great technique to be able to handle speed rushers and any counters you throw at him. This allows him to be a top tier pass protector.
In the run game, he uses his long arms and power to move guys off the ball and pave holes for his RBs. The strongest part of his game is on the move though. He might have just turned 35, but he still runs like he's in his early 20s. His ability to block on the move is special, and the Bengals used this plenty of times to create big plays in the run game. This play is not from this season, but it best showcases his athleticism and highlights his game perfectly.
As a leader, Whitworth is a dominating presence. Two of the most important attributes he points to in being a great leader and establishing relationships: Time and committment. Those are two things he's definitely put into his NFL career so far, and seemingly has endless amounts of. That's why he's a top 100 player in the NFL.

#28 - Travis Kelce - TE - Kansas City Chiefs - Previous Rank: N/R

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Written by Steffnov
After earning an honorable mention last year, Travis Kelce has earnt his first appearance on the /NFL top 100 list in 2016, and instantly ended up being the #1 TE on the list. “Baby Gronk” was easily Alex Smith’s favorite target this season, equaling as many yards as the number 2 and 3 targets (Tyreek Hill and Jeremy Maclin) combined. This season, only Julio Jones had more 100-yard games than the pro bowl TE (6), 5 of which came in the second half of the season. His four consecutive 100-yard game stretch between week 10 and 13 tied an NFL record for tight ends, putting him in a list with Tony Gonzalez and Jimmy Graham. He also lead all tight ends in receiving yards in 2016.
On the field, Kelce is a match-up nightmare. At 6’5 260, he has 4.61 speed, runs routes like a wide receiver and has the strength to overpower you, both while run blocking and while catching the ball. He can take bubble screens to the house, he can go underneath and he can just take them on a go route. What you end up is a big play machine who can blow kisses by you and then ride you to the ground after having caught the ball. And after he’s made you look like a fool, he doesn’t mind rubbing some salt in your wounds.
During his signature game (week 16 vs the Broncos), he caught 11 of 12 passes (also highest for a TE this season) for 160 yards, including an 80-yard screen he took to the house. Three weeks earlier, he tortured the Falcons by catching all 8 passes his way, which was good for 140 yards. Another signature moment, though in a different light, was his ejection vs the Jags, when the former Bearcat threw his towel at a ref after he didn’t get a call his way.
Unconventionally for a TE without history in New England, Kelce doesn’t mind throwing a party every once in a while, and starred in a dating show, which pitched women from each state against each other. The winning girl lasted about a month. While Kelce might have to give the tight end title back next year, he'll certainly last longer than that.

#27 - Alex Mack - Center - Atlanta Falcons - Previous Rank: N/R

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Written by Felix_Tholomyes
After seven seasons in Cleveland Alex Mack had had enough and left the Browns to look for success elsewhere. Therefore, it came as a surprise to many when he signed a huge contract with the Atlanta Falcons last off-season. The Falcons were by no means considered a Super Bowl contender, so why leave Cleveland just to go lose games for another city? As it turns out, reuniting with OC Kyle Shanahan was a recipe for success for Mack as the Falcons made a deep playoff run. Nobody can accuse Mack of slowing down after receiving his big contract as he showed great heart playing through injuries. Not even a broken leg in the NFCCG stopped Mack as he came back and finished the game and also played in the Super Bowl despite the injury.
To truly understand the impact Alex Mack had on the Falcons one must first recall where the Falcons came from in 2015. Mack was brought in to replace Center Mike Person, a former Guard who had been shoehorned into a position at which he didn’t have much experience. Watching Matt Ryan take snaps from shotgun in 2015 would make fans cringe as one never knew when it was time for Person to sail another snap over the head of Ryan. The signing of Alex Mack took the Falcons from having arguably the worst center in the league to having arguably the best. Mack not only brought stability to the snapping situation, his experience in recognizing formations and making pre-snap calls improved the whole Falcon OL group. Mack also provided a huge upgrade with his actual blocking skills. In particular, his run game blocking helped open up holes for the two-headed monster coming out of Atlanta’s backfield.
There were many factors which contributed to the success of the 2016 Falcons offense, but signing Alex Mack may just have been the most important. It should go down as one of the great FA moves in recent memory.

#26 - Drew Brees - QB - New Orleans Saints - Previous Rank: 34

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Written by Bouzal
Breezy Breezy what's good? I'll tell ya what's good - Drew Brees for the umpteenth year in a row. For yet another season, Our Lord and Savior plugged away at one of the NFLs best offenses, threw for his fifth 5,000-yard season, and dragged his defense's sorry ass to 7 hard fought wins. Yes, it wasn't perfect and roses the whole way: the 15 interceptions should give some people pause (it should be noted he through 6 in the span of 2 games before finishing out the season with 7/1 ratio over the last 3). However, it should be clear to everyone that the now 38-year-old QB is still at the top of his game. He finished 2016 as the NFLs 5th ranked passer, and his Passer Rating, Touchdowns, TD%, Yards, ANY/A, and Completion% were all highs for him since at least 2013.
Entering the final year of a contract that voids after this season, there is some question as to if he will be back next year - and it's fair why that question is being asked. After 3 consecutive 7-9 seasons, many think he would rather sign with a contender on a short deal and go for another ring. Sean Payton's uncertain future after the upcoming season also leads some to wonder if Brees will sign on again. Ultimately, it comes down to how the team performs this year. If they make the playoffs, he's definitely back, but even if they don't, I think it's more likely than not we see Brees finish out his career in a Saints uniform. After all, he has said he'd like to play ‘til 45, and the way he's going, he may just do it.

#25 - Eric Berry - SS - Kansas City Chiefs - Previous Rank: 31

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Written by UnbiasedBrownsFan
Eric Berry’s hybrid abilities to excel both in run defense and pass defense unsurprisingly brought him pretty high up this list. His versatility at both strong safety and free safety bring a unique mix of playmaking ability to the Chief’s defense. His presence on the field has turned the Chiefs from dead last in terms of turnovers to the number one team to throw six interceptions against.
Watching Eric Berry this season it really struck me how… elegantly he plays. That’s the best word I can use to describe it. It’s almost like everything is moving in slow motion. The way he highpoints the football and carries it with one hand never ceases to amaze me. There’s a reason this man is the highest paid safety in the league.
But we all remember the one particular game this season that was quite special. Returning to his home state Georgia, to the city where he had received cancer treatment just two years prior, Eric Berry put on a show that would move a grown man to tears. He did the Dirty Birds dirty. Using his enhanced super vision Eric Berry read the soul of league MVP Matt Ryan and took away two crucial picks. The first launched the Chiefs into a lead prior to the end of the second quarter, and in a beautiful show of respect he gave the ball to his mother. But that wasn’t good enough for Eric Berry, he didn’t want six, he wanted eight. So, what do the coaches recommend we do in situations such as these? Well, why not go for two? The first game winning pick-two in NFL history, courtesy of all-world safety, Eric Berry.

#24 - Zack Martin - Guard - Dallas Cowboys - Previous Rank: 41

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Written by mister_jay_peg
Something that should be apparent to you guys by now is that I have an affinity for offensive linemen. I like to study their tape as much as GamePass will allow, and I love picking apart technique. And do you guys wanna know something? I am a huge fan of Zack Martin.
I mean, he is already a 2-time First Team AP AllPro (plus one Second Team), and that's pretty impressive. But I can already hear the contrarians saying, "But he plays next to Travis Frederick! He has so much help!" But what if I told you that Martin was an absolute god damn technician and would be an All Pro in basically any city he played?
Like this right here. I know it doesn't seem like much. Yay, Zack Martin pulling and engaging. But watch it on a loop a few times. It takes him less than 10 frames to be out of his stance and in perfect form to take on Snacks Harrison. And the speed is important because Harrison is seriously quick off the ball for such a huge man, and he was already flowing to the play-side. After that, watch it a few more times. Watch how he carried himself low into the block. Harrison loses at the point of attack because Martin was able to stay low through the pull, and at contact deliver his blow lower than Harrison, standing him up. That is not something that comes easy to a lot of people, and against an elite talent it's even less so. Martin does it consistently play after play.
Here's one for pass pro. From stance to set again lightning fast. He makes first contact, he reads the spin immediately and knows he's on an island, so he keeps his left hand in constant contact (hard to see with Witten crossing the screen, I know) which forces the defender to have to brush it off, and at the end of the move his right hand is perfectly set in the DT's armpit while the left hand is still engaged with his frame, and now he can control his defenders position better than the defender can himself.
And this is just two quick gifs. But if you have the time and the desire to want to learn more about what separates good OLine play from great OLine play, watching Martin from the All22 is a great place to start. Because he is, at worst, a Top 3 guard in the league. At worst.

#23 - Joe Thomas - Tackle - Cleveland Browns - Previous Rank: 11

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Written by UnbiasedBrownsFan
9945, that's the number of consecutive snaps Joe Thomas has played to start his career. Did you read that right? Joe Thomas? The Brown? You'd think on a team with perpetually nothing to play for come December you'd get a snap off here or there. Not Joe Thomas, not once, not ever. I'm entirely convinced that if Joe Thomas broke both of his legs he wouldn't miss a snap. He'd put the team on his back doe.
Thomas’ 2016 season was more of the usual, another Pro Bowl nod, his tenth consecutive. Another All-Pro recognition, his ninth of his illustrious career. He was the cornerstone of the team that averaged 4.9 yards per attempt, second in the league. What? Didn't know that? Me either. How the hell did that happen? Joe fucking Thomas is how the hell that happened. Dominant as ever, Thomas hasn't lost a step, even at the ripe age of 32. Take week one in Philly as an example, why have an offensive tackle and an offensive guard when you can just have a Joe Thomas? He can block everybody, he doesn't discriminate. He. Is. Not. Human. He looks human, he even acts human. But when he plays, he's a monster.
As a Browns fan, it's been my pleasure to watch this man give his life to an organization that has given him little in return. He WANTS to play for us. This man WANTS to be a Brown. To have a player that genuinely cares for his team as much as Joe Thomas does, that's genuinely special. Now I don't speak for all Browns fans and excuse me Mister_Jay_Peg, but if I had to choose between winning a Super Bowl or Joe Thomas? Fuck the Super Bowl. (Ed. Note: I mean, you could have traded him here to Denver, become a Broncos fan, and had both. But noooooooooooooo. - MJP)

#22 - Aqib Talib - CB - Denver Broncos - Previous Rank: N/R

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Written by BlindManBaldwin
The Chaingrabber clocks in at #22. (Ed. Note: Please direct all hate at BMB for this one. I’m not touching it. - MJP)* Love him or hate him, Aqib Talib is undoubtedly one of the best corners in the NFL. He's coming off of his 4th straight pro bowl season and his first ever 1st team all-pro. He's one of the key pilots in the Broncos vaulted No Fly Zone secondary
Talib brings the best of both worlds to the position. He's crazy athletic with insane speed and fantastic hands. Tyreke Hill, who runs a 4.25 40, couldn't out speed the 30-year-old DB. He also is great in coverage, allowing only a 49.5 passer rating and had 0 touchdowns given up in 315 snaps in 2016. Talib shut down Julio Jones in the Broncos game against the Falcons this year. How many CBs can say that?
In 2016 Talib became the Broncos career leader in pick sixes with his fifth. As he is getting older, Talib is reaching the end of his career. He's one of the rare NFL players who peaks later in their career. Talib is quickly making an argument to be among the best CBs in Broncos history (who have a rich history with guys like Champ Bailey and Louis Wright). Talib missed three games in 2016 and dealt with a back injury all year.
Talib is an individual with a checkered history in the NFL and this continued in 2016 with controversies involving fighting players, the Crabtree incident, shoving Jordan Norwood (to the cheers of /denverbroncos), and reportedly yelling at Russell Okung in the locker room. However, these events make Talib the fiery and respected leader that he is in the Broncos locker room. His college DC said, “You can have one of them fat, lazy horses or you can have a thoroughbred. Talib’s a thoroughbred. And with thoroughbreds, they’ll bite you every now and then. What makes him great in football is the high energy and willingness to take a risk. And that’s the way he lives his life.”
Talib is one of the most controversial individuals in the NFL but he is unquestionably among the best corners in the league. When flying with No Fly Zone remember not to have any jewelry on or expect to have catches.

#21 - Odell Beckham Jr. - New York Giants - Previous Rank: 16

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Written by UnbiasedBrownsFan <--- Today’s MVP by the way
I would use three words to describe Odell Beckham Jr. last season. Smooth. Effortless. Clutch. Many consider his on-field antics a vice, but what I see is a virtue. A young man so passionate about the game of football that he’s willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done, and leave the stadium with a win. While sometimes his emotions get the best of him his demeanor is what makes him a truly special player, and why these words epitomize his play.
Smooth. Let’s forget about football for a second here. This guy is an entertainer. I’ve got to admit, sometimes the only reason I’m watching is to see this guy dance. Not to mention that run of Michael Jackson impressions he went on. I even got a kick of his Lebron James celebration… But besides the fact that he’s a great dancer he makes being a great player look
Effortless. His plays are impressive in a vacuum or just looking at a spreadsheet, but watching him make them is truly incredible. Who else can take a slant to the house as often as Odell Beckham? He even owns a monopoly on one-handed catches. His name gets dropped wherever or whenever there is a one-hander because of plays like this. He makes great plays look routine. His speed compliments both his ability to get down the field in a hurry, and his run after the catch. Not only that, but he’s not half bad at returning punts either. Now this is all fun and good until it actually matters. When the game is on the line. And that’s where I think Odell excels, in the clutch. When you need a big play and the game is hanging in the balance, who better to call on than the impassioned Odell Beckham Jr.? Who better to bring a soul-punching, gut-wrenching, game-ending play? Now I don’t know if this ranking is too high, or too low. All I know is he is only going to get better. Prepare yourselves NFL.
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2017.01.23 21:34 nbomb220 Meaningless Maybes: A pointless exercise in draft could-have-beens

We know Ted Thompson is often lauded for his ability to make something out of nothing: molding undrafted rookies and late picks into serviceable or even starting-caliber players. However, we also know that his drafting (mostly on the defensive side of the ball) has been...shoddy lately.
With that in mind, here's who the Packers could have had if we had a crystal ball (or, in some cases, just drafted who I was screaming at the TV at them to draft—cough Eric Kendricks over Damarious Randall cough). I'll only do the 2011 draft onward, since that's the draft that occurred right after we won the Super Bowl. I'll also only do the first four rounds, since 5+ is a bit of a crapshoot for anyone. Finally, I'm leaving out our most recent draft, as it's only been one full season.
To make this more of a realistic exercise and eliminate a BIT of the "hindsight is 20/20" element, I'll only select players who we could have taken before our next pick. For example, in 2011, CB Richard Sherman was taken in the 5th round. The guy is 1st round talent, but I won't pick him in the 1st or 2nd in our fantasy world...I can only pick him the closest selection we had to him before he was taken, if that makes sense.
I'll also grade players like so: Elite (A++), Outstanding (A), Successful (B), Average (C), Disappointing (C-/D+), Bust (hovering around F), Massive Bust (F-, oh god why).
Finally, I'll also try to let team need at the time influence my decisions a bit, but not too much, as TT has publicly said many times that they take the best player available over team need 9 out of 10 times.
I realize every single team in the NFL can do this, and I realize hindsight is always 20/20. This is meant to be a fun little exercise in "what could have been" in our newly-minted offseason. It may be a shitpost, but at least it's a football shitpost...right?
  • 2011 Draft: The Reality
Rd. 1) OT Derek Sherrod Pick 32
Evaluation: Massive bust
Analysis: We all know the story here. He was a fantastic, athletic tackle out of Mississippi State, but a broken leg and its lingering effects ended a promising career. Objectively, however, and for the sake of this post, a bust is a bust, especially in the 1st round.
Rd. 2) WR Randall Cobb Pick 64
Evaluation: Successful
Analysis: Though it's been argued that he's a product of his QB and the WR talent that surrounds him (a point that could be pointed to when looking at his disappointing 2015 season), there is no arguing the production Cobb brings when the offense is rolling. He's taken licks and has come up huge in huge moments, and hovers right around where you'd expect a 2nd round pick to be.
Rd. 3) RB Alex Green Pick 96
Evaluation: Disappointing
Analysis: Green was supposed to be a change-of-pace weapon for Rodgers to utilize (mostly) in the passing game. He was never chosen to become an every-down back, but he didn't make much of an impact even in the limited role he was put into. The rare times he carried the ball (especially in desperate, injury-caused situations) were underwhelming. However, it's not fair to ever really call a 3rd round running back a bust.
Rd. 4) CB Davon House Pick 131
Evaluation: Successful
Analysis: I try to weigh the draft position in my grading, and one could argue that House was more of an "outstanding" pick than a "successful" one. However, we didn't think enough of him to hang onto him, so I'm sticking with a B for the fourth-rounder. He played better than where he was drafted and was a pleasant surprise when we needed him. He's no shutdown corner, but we would have loved to have had him in the final stretch of this season.
  • 2011 Draft: The Fantasy
Rd. 1) TE Kyle Rudolph Pick 32
Actual Pick: 43
Analysis: If you take a look at anyone the Packers could have taken between Sherrod and Cobb's selections, it doesn't look too good. Looking back, there wasn't much talent to be had here, which makes the Sherrod pick sting a BIT less. Kyle Rudolph being (arguably) the creme of the crop says it all. However, if we had to make the best of the situation, taking Rudolph, a very talented receiving TE, instead of Sherrod would have been beneficial. Jermichael Finley would go down for good a few seasons later, so having Rudolph around would ease the pain. Until then, well...New England is a team that will show you the benefit of having two TE's that can open the field.
Note: Because OT was a pretty big need, one could argue that OT Orlando Franklin would be a better fit here. He did start all 16 games as a rookie for Denver. He then proceeded to start all 16 games in 2012, 15 games in 2013, and 16 games in 2014. However, he's had his ups and downs since and isn't regarded as one of the best tackles in the NFL.
Rd. 2) HB DeMarco Murray Pick 64
Actual Pick: 71
Analysis: Randall is one of my favorite Packers and one of the few I have actually shook hands with in person. I'd hate if we didn't have him. But, looking at it objectively, Murray would have been a great pick here. He was taken seven picks after Cobb, and we'd roll with the duo of Ryan Grant and James Starks the following season. GB would spend their next pick on a disappointing RB in Alex Green. Murray's still chugging right along in Tennessee and had a fantastic season this year. Taking a premier RB right here would have altered the course of several drafts after this one.
Rd 3) OLB KJ Wright Pick 96
Actual Pick: 99
Analysis: Though used as your typical weakside linebacker in Seattle's 4-3 offense, Wright has the talent to have been groomed into a 3-4 ILB (or even OLB). The rangy linebacker is an essential part of Seattle's lauded defense and has been a starter since his rookie year. Wright was also graded as Pro Football Focus's second best linebacker in the entire league during the first half of the 2015-2016 season.
Rd. 4) CB Richard Sherman Pick 131
Actual Pick: 154
Analysis: I don't think I need to say much here. Sherman was a 5th rounder, and ANY team would have taken him much earlier than this if they had only known the talent he had. I think it's safe to say Sherman > House on this one.
2011 Summary
Rd. 1) OT Derek Sherrod
Rd. 1) TE Kyle Rudolph
Rd. 2) WR Randall Cobb
Rd. 2) HB DeMarco Murray
Rd. 3) HB Alex Green
Rd. 3) OLB KJ Wright
Rd. 4) CB Davon House
Rd. 4) CB Richard Sherman
  • 2012 Draft: The Reality
Rd. 1) OLB Nick Perry Pick 28
Evaluation: Average
Analysis: Perry has really come on around the tail-end of last season and pretty much all of this season. Injuries have really, REALLY hampered his career, and because of that he hasn't had the impact you want from a 1st round pick. I think when you consider his unavailability for much of his career, his middling play when he was around, and his recent surge in success, I think he averages out to, well...average.
Rd. 2) DE Jerel Worthy Pick 51
Evaluation: Bust
Analysis: Unfortunately, Worthy had zero impact on the team. The ox-strong ex-Spartan had injury issues and never really became the disruptive force GB thought he could be. He went from team to team for a while, but in 2016 he landed in Buffalo and actually played in 13 games.
Rd. 2) CB Casey Hayward Pick 62
Evaluation: Successful
Analysis: It was hard to decide whether to call this pick "successful" or "outstanding". Hayward was a ballhawk his rookie year, with QB's posting a rating of 31.1 against him, which was the lowest of any cornerback in the NFL. He led the team in interceptions and was in the running for NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. However, the only thing keeping him from an "outstanding" tag was his next few seasons. Injuries slowed him down, and the Packers did not choose to re-sign him once his contract expired. He posted 7 interceptions with San Diego this year, a higher total than he ever had with GB. He was also named to his first Pro-Bowl.
Rd. 4) DE Mike Daniels Pick 132
Evaluation: Outstanding
Analysis: Mike Daniels continues to be a force on the defensive line and the leader of GB's defense. The vocal, tough tonesetter out of Iowa was a great value pick and is regularly identified as one of the more underrated 3-4 defensive linemen in the league.
Rd. 4) SS Jerron McMillian Pick 133
Evaluation: Bust
Analysis: After snagging the excellent Daniels, the Packers found themselves with the very next pick in the draft. The outcome was night and day. When forced into action, McMillian did absolutely nothing. At least he became a beast for me in Madden 25.
  • 2012 Draft: The Fantasy
Rd. 1) ILB Bobby Wagner Pick 28
Actual Pick: 47
Analysis: Packer fans have been lamenting the absence of a true athletic ILB for what seems like forever now. The Wagners, Lees and Kuchlys of the league are so disruptive and valuable, shutting down passing lanes just as well as they shut down running backs. The best defenses of the past 10 years have had a gifted coverage linebacker in the middle of the field. Bobby Wagner is one of the league's very best players and is the leader of a supremely talented Seattle defense. If you're keeping score, that's three starters we'd have stolen from the Seahawks' D. That front office knows what it's doing.
Note: I'd give an honorable mention to FS Harrison Smith here, an elite and wildly underrated staple of Minnesota's defense. However, we've been missing a force in the middle for years and have been reasonably set on the back end.
Rd. 2) DE Olivier Vernon Pick 51
Actual Pick: 72
Analysis: One could argue that Lavonte David or Kelechi Osemele would have been better here, but we'd be all set with linebacker in our fantasy world up to this point and the Lang/Sitton duo cancelled out a need for guard. Vernon has been a terror for quarterbacks over his first five seasons in the league, posting an impressive 38 sacks and almost 200 tackles in that span. He may have been incredibly overpaid by the Giants last offseason, but having a talent like Vernon on the edge (he'd almost certainly have switched to an edge-rushing OLB in a 3-4) would have panned out way better than Worthy did on the inside.
Rd 2) CB Casey Hayward Pick 62
Actual Pick: 62
Analysis: The first subjective "best pick"! Hayward provided excellent depth for our stacked secondary and was, as noted in his "real-life" analysis, one of the best cornerbacks in the entire league his rookie year. It's a shame he struggled with injuries after that, but his production for the Chargers makes you wonder if we let him go too easily.
Rd. 4) DE Mike Daniels Pick 132
Actual Pick: 132
Analysis: The second "good job, Ted" in a row. It would be hard to imagine our defensive line today if it lacked such a dynamic presence.
Rd. 4) CB Josh Norman Pick 133
Actual Pick: 143
Analysis: It took Josh Norman a while to become the well-regarded cornerback he is today. One could argue that he's overrated, or that Carolina's defensive as a whole made him look better than he actually is, but no one would deny that he would be an excellent part of any CB group on any team...or that he would be a better pick than Jerron McMillian. Taking Norman here would make cap casualties like Tramon Williams, Sam Shields, or even (if necessary) Casey Hayward much easier to let go.
2012 Summary
Rd. 1) OLB Nick Perry
Rd. 1) ILB Bobby Wagner
Rd. 2) DE Jerel Worthy
Rd. 2) DE Olivier Vernon
Rd. 2) CB Casey Hayward
Rd. 4) DE Mike Daniels
Rd. 4) SS Jerron McMillian
Rd. 4) CB Josh Norman
  • 2013 Draft: The Reality
Rd. 1) DE Datone Jones Pick 26
Evaluation: Bust
Analysis: As we get closer to the present, it gets harder to evaluate these guys. It's not fair to call someone a bust if they haven't had a while to learn, grow, and make an impact. With that in mind, I think it's finally time to switch Jones from "disappointing" to "bust". He has rare flashes of playmaking ability, but then he disappears for games on end, only to reemerge by making a boneheaded personal foul instead of a nice play. The pass rusher who was taken to set "Da Tone" has largely been tone deaf during his time with Green Bay.
Rd. 2) HB Eddie Lacy Pick 61
Evaluation: Average
Analysis: Oh, Eddie. The fan favorite has had his ups and downs in his relatively short time with the team. Bruising runs, dizzying spins, and a winning smile are offset by nagging injuries, the trademark "outside toss into a brick wall" (okay, blame McCarthy, not him), and weight/conditioning concerns. I was very close to calling this pick successful, but comparing Eddie to other 2nd round picks makes you realize he hasn't panned out as well as we'd wanted. We'll see within the coming months whether or not Eddie will have a chance to become a fantastic runner in Green Bay again.
Rd. 4) OT David Bakhtiari Pick 109
Evaluation: Elite
Analysis: I was saving the "Elite" tag for a player that is truly considered one of the elite players in the league, and I think Bakh is finally there. PFF's highest-graded pass blocker has become an essential piece of the team and regarded as one of the premier blindside blockers in the entire NFL. It took him a while to get there (growing pains and holding calls abound), but I think I can speak for many Packer fans when I say I'm glad the team had patience with him.
Rd. 4) OL JC Tretter Pick 122
Evaluation: Successful
Analysis: Tretter is an interesting case. Injured most of his rookie year, he was slated to be the starting center for the next season, until Corey Linsley performed exceptionally while JC was injured and won the spot. However, Tretter was still regarded as a very good blocker, and was versatile enough to be plugged in nearly everywhere on the offensive line when needed. He performed very well when Linsley was injured this season, but the pair swapped again when Tretter went down for the rest of the year. He's proven to be injury-prone, but he's also proven to be reliable when healthy, and his versatility on the line is great to have.
Rd. 4) HB Johnathan Franklin Pick 125
Evaluation: Disappointing
Analysis: As we know, Franklin's evaluation here has nothing to do with his skill or success as a player; it has everything to do with the horribly unfortunate career-ending neck injury he sustained too soon into his very young career. When healthy, Franklin proved to be a shifty, athletically-gifted, promising back. Packer fans have a soft spot for Franklin to this day, and the immensely sad end to his career is softened just a little by Franklin's new career moving up the ranks in various front offices.
Note: Unlike the previous two drafts, the Packers drafted a player after the 4th round who continues to contribute to the team: S Micah Hyde (5). They also drafted players who play for other teams: Tennessee LB Nate Palmer (6), Minnesota WR Charles Johnson (7), New Orleans LB Sam Barrington (7).
  • 2013 Draft: The Fantasy
Rd. 1) C Travis Frederick Pick 26
Actual Pick: 31
Analysis: There are a couple interesting picks that could have happened here instead of Datone. DeAndre Hopkins, Darius Slay, Gio Bernard, Kawann Short, Kiko Alonso, Le'Veon Bell, and Jamie Collins were all available. However, considering the past "fantasy world" picks, only Hopkins or Short would be needed of these options. I think Frederick, consistently hailed as a top three center in the entire league, would make more of an impact than these two. A lineup of Bakhtiari, Sitton, Frederick, Lang, and Bulaga would be quite the sight.
Rd. 2) FS Tyrann Mathieu Pick 61
Actual Pick: 69
Analysis: TE Travis Kelce or Jordan Reed would have been fine picks as well, but the Packers were not wanting for more receiving talent at the time and Mathieu is a premier safety in the league. His pure coverage talent and famous toughness combine for a special player on the back end, and one could only imagine the Honey Badger in green and gold.
Rd. 4) OT David Bakhtiari Pick 109
Actual Pick: 109
Analysis: As I said earlier, it took a little while for Bakh to cement himself as a top tackle, but this was a fantastic value pick in the 4th round.
Rd. 4) OL JC Tretter Pick 122
Actual Pick: 122
Analysis: This may be a surprise to some people, but I think Tretter was the best pick at this point. He continues to fill a specific role on the team, and it's not often you find a player who can plug into nearly any position on the offensive line. Sometimes solid depth is as much as you can ask for in this league.
Rd. 4) HB Theo Riddick Pick 125
Actual Pick: 199
Analysis: The need of a change-of-pace, 3rd down back was certainly there for GB, and there were plenty to choose from at this point. We unfortunately can't say whether or not Franklin would have thrived here, and it's hard to speculate. However, Riddick, though injury-prone, provides a dynamic threat to the Lions when he's available. He would be another headache for opposing defenses to focus on in the explosive Packers offensive. Other athletic RB options here could have been Denard Robinson, Chris Thompson, or Andre Ellington. More balanced players were also available, such as Latavius Murray and Spencer Ware.
2013 Summary
Rd. 1) DE Datone Jones
Rd. 1) C Travis Frederick
Rd. 2) HB Eddie Lacy
Rd. 2) FS Tyrann Mathieu
Rd. 4) LT David Bakhtiari
Rd. 4) C JC Tretter
Rd. 4) HB Johnathan Franklin
Rd. 4) HB Theo Riddick
  • 2014 Draft: The Reality
Rd. 1) FS Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Pick 21
Evaluation: Outstanding
Analysis: Ha Ha is one of the lone bright spots of a defense that has been needing playmakers for years. He is the only player on the team who consistently picks the ball off, and he has proven to be a tough hitter; he doesn't feel uncomfortable closer to the trenches. Ha Ha struggled with missed tackles early on, but his highlight reel is already full of impressive clips.
Rd. 2) WR Davante Adams Pick 53
Evaluation: Successful
Analysis: Davante's another guy who has had his ups and downs. His first few seasons were a roller coaster of drops and incredible plays, doghouses and game balls. He still shows flashes of unsure hands and the boneheadedness of his earlier days, but Davante is slowly becoming a stable, reliable, and unwavering figure in the Packers offense. If he continues to progress the way he has, his "successful" may turn "outstanding".
Rd. 3) DT Khyri Thornton Pick 85
Evaluation: Bust
Analysis: Thornton had the stink of bust all over him, dating as early as training camp. Word trickled that coaches had a lot of work to do with the tackle out of Southern Mississippi, and after a while the team gave up on making him into something successful. The big man could not shed blocks and was pretty much a ghost out on the field. Since he was cut, Thornton went from New England to Detroit, where he now acts as a decently serviceable depth lineman.
Rd. 3) TE Richard Rodgers Pick 98
Evaluation: Average
Analysis: Dick Rod has had quite a presence in the Packers' offense since he was drafted in the 3rd round of the 2014 draft. He's been a consistent target for Aaron Rodgers and was the immaculate receptor of the famous game-winning Hail Mary vs. the Lions in 2015. However, volume doesn't necessarily beget greatness. Rich Rodgers doesn't wow anyone with his athleticism, and though he has decently reliable hands, he runs routes like he's ankle-deep in molasses. The emergence of Jered Cook immediately pushed RR back to 2nd TE and highlighted how important a true receiving TE could be.
Rd. 4) ILB Carl Bradford Pick 121
Evaluation: Bust
Analysis: Again, it's tough to label someone who was picked in the 4th round a bust. However, Bradford had plenty of opportunities to show his worth on the team and never did. It's also disappointing when you consider the fantastic players that GB has managed to snag in other 4th rounds. Bradford bounced from active roster to practice squad to free agent to practice squad to free agent again. He went from pass-rushing DE to pass-rushing OLB to ILB. Bradford never made an impact, and his latest change was from free agency to San Francisco, where he currently sits as a benchwarmer.
Note: The Packers also drafted some players after the 4th round who continue to contribute to the team: C Corey Linsley (5), CB Demetri Goodson (6), and WR Jeff Janis (7). They also drafted WR Jared Abbrederis in the 5th, who recently got picked up by Detroit.
  • 2014 Draft: The Fantasy
Rd. 1) S/LB Deone Bucannon Pick 21
Actual Pick: 27
Analysis: I love HHCD and would have chosen to stay with him here, but we went with Tyrann Mathieu last season and don't necessarily need another starting free safety. However, Bucannon is an integral piece of Arizona's respected defense, floating between safety and inside linebacker depending on the situation. He is a rare combination of strength and speed, something that is essential for an elite defense in today's NFL. The "Money Linebacker" would undoubtedly be utilized in a number of creative ways in Dom Capers' dynamic defensive scheme.
Rd. 2) WR Allen Robinson Pick 53
Actual Pick: 61
Analysis: Robinson had an outstanding sophomore season, racking up 1,400 yards and 14 TD's. He did not match that production this season, as Bortles (and the underrated Jacksonville offense as a whole) struggled. However, one could only imagine what the wildly talented wideout would be able to do opposite Jordy Nelson. I think Robinson is a lot more naturally gifted than Adams, but I also look forward to any points someone may have arguing the opposite.
Rd. 3) WR John Brown Pick 85
Actual Pick: 91
Analysis: Remember, in our universe, we did not draft Randall Cobb. Jordy, Jarrett Boykin, and James Jones the previous season would be cut down to only Jordy and Boykin (now an unreliable "meh") for the start of 2014. Acquiring Allen Robinson and John Brown would bolster this thinning corps. Brown would be an outstanding prototypical slot receiver, offering speed and acting as a devastating deep threat. He's the big-play man in Arizona, and would keep defending corners on their heels all game long.
Rd. 3) HB Devonta Freeman Pick 98
Actual Pick: 103
Analysis: Though we'd only be running with Kyle Rudolph and presumed later-round picks/free agents as backups, there isn't much TE talent remaining in this draft. However, the explosive Freeman would act as a wonderful one-two punch paired with our DeMarco Murray. The two-headed approach would be spelled now and then with Riddick as a receiving threat to make up one hell of a RB stable.
Rd. 4) OLB Aaron Lynch Pick 121
Actual Pick: 150
Analysis: This draft was unusually thin in talent in the later rounds. Aaron Lynch would have been a much better linebacker to take than Bradford. A natural speed rusher, Lynch has done pretty well for himself in the relatively similar 49ers defense. He's racked up 75 combined tackles in 3 seasons and has had 14 sacks in that span. With the talent we're accumulating, Lynch would probably be a Jayrone Elliott-esque rotational/situational pass rusher, but that's a very important position in Capers' scheme.
2014 Summary
Rd. 1) FS Ha Ha HaHa Haahaha Clinton-Dix
Rd. 1) S/LB Deone Bucannon
Rd. 2) WR Davante Adams
Rd. 2) WR Allen Robinson
Rd. 3) DT Khyri Thornton
Rd. 3) WR John Brown
Rd. 3) TE Richard Rodgers
Rd. 3) HB Devonta Freeman
Rd. 4) LB Carl Bradford
Rd. 4) LB Aaron Lynch
  • 2015 Draft: The Reality
Rd. 1) CB Damarious Randall Pick 30
Evaluation: Disappointing
Analysis: Again, I have to throw in the disclaimer that it's going to be tough to give these guys a solid evaluation because they haven't been around long. Randall has floated between all sorts of prospective evaluations at this point in his career. He's looked incredibly promising, hauling in interceptions and being a surprisingly solid tackler. He's also looked lost, soft, and disappointing. The jury's still out on the former safety, but Randall definitely has a lot of improvement ahead of him if he wants to be seen as worth a 1st round pick.
Rd. 2) CB Quinten Rollins Pick 62
Evaluation: Disappointing
Analysis: Read Damarious Randall's description again. Rollins' story is very similar. He's only played football for a few years of his life, and when healthy has showed flashes of natural talent. He's also been burned quite a few times. The jury's still out on the former basketball player, but Rollins definitely has a lot of improvement ahead of him if he wants to be seen as worth a 2st round pi...oh. Sorry.
Rd. 3) WR Ty Montgomery Pick 94
Evaluation: Outstanding
Analysis: This was another pick that had me debating whether or not I should use "successful" or "outstanding". Considering Montgomery's athleticism and major contributions to the offense this year, I'd say he's well worth a 3rd round pick. His ability to play WR, HB, and return kicks/punts is incredible. Monty stepped up big time in the wake of the HB injury plague, and gained league-wide recognition for how smoothly he transitioned into the backfield. I'd like to see him used more as a WR in the coming seasons, as I think he's criminally underused at his original position, but I'm also looking forward to swapping him in and out of the backfield to give opposing defenses different looks.
Rd. 4) ILB Jake Ryan Pick 129
Evaluation: Average
Analysis: I know "average" may be a bit harsh here. Jake Ryan is better than his draft position, winning a starting job and getting better and better as the months went on. However, he's another too-late pick on a too-slow ILB. Ryan's been improving in all facets of the game, but you can't teach natural ability, and unfortunately he's looking like AJ Hawk 2.0. That's not meant to be a full-on insult, as Hawk was a dependable tackling machine for years; however, the game has evolved, and you need dynamic, speedy guys in the middle.
  • 2015 Draft: The Fantasy
Rd. 1) ILB Eric Kendricks Pick 30
Actual Pick: 45
Analysis: Kendricks has become a force to be reckoned with in the Minnesota middle, flying all over the field and making a ton of plays. The speedy backer out of GB's wellspring UCLA is fantastic against the run and in pass coverage. In two seasons, Kendricks has 201 combined tackles. The fact that the Packers could have technically had Bobby Wagner beside Eric Kendricks in the middle hurts just a bit.
Rd. 2) DE Danielle Hunter Pick 62
Actual Pick: 88
Analysis: Hunter would be ridiculous opposite Mike Daniels. The rangy pass rusher is one of the most promising young players in the league, racking up 89 combined tackles and an astounding 18.5 sacks in two seasons. What's more amazing is that the 22-year-old isn't a regular starter, which is expected to change next season. He's a monster of a player with incredible upside.
Rd. 3) WR Ty Montgomery Pick 94
Actual Pick: 94
Analysis: I know in our la-la land we've got Jordy, Allen Robinson, and John Brown, but Ty's versatility would make him too good to pass up here. He'd be one hell of a 4th WR in an empty set, and his skill returning punts and kicks would be invaluable. These reasons, combined with the possibility of gadget plays while lined up in the backfield as well as the complete lack of talent in the draft until our next pick, make Monty a fine pickup in the 3rd round.
Rd. 4) NT Grady Jarrett Pick 129
Actual Pick: 137
Analysis: The most glaring weakness in our team up to this point is nose tackle. BJ Raji will be gone, and we haven't addressed the position in any pick up to this point. Jarrett is a very promising young tackle for the Falcons. In two seasons, he has 72 combined tackles and 4 sacks, which are actually pretty good numbers for a 3-4 nose tackle. The big man would definitely thrive with the personnel he's surrounded with.
2015 Summary
Rd. 1) CB Damarious Randall
Rd. 1) ILB Eric Kendricks
Rd. 2) CB Quinten Rollins
Rd. 2) DE Danielle Hunter
Rd. 3) WR Ty Montgomery
Rd. 4) LB Jake Ryan
Rd. 4) NT Grady Jarrett
Well, there we go. I probably spent more time on this than I should have, but I wanted to see what could have been in a "perfect" world. This would have been quite the team!
I don't mean for this to be some sort of attack on TT, because obviously no one has this degree of foresight. Player success can also be attributed to things like coaching, injuries, depth chart situations, or just pure right-place-right-time luck. With a team as stacked as this one, salary cap issues would also have to be considered.
Again, hindsight is 20/20 and this is largely meaningless. Just wanted to contribute something besides memes! Thanks for taking the time.
EDIT: Obligatory thanks for the gold! I appreciate the appreciation.
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2016.12.13 17:59 Extremeaty Danny And Kyle's Season Preview

NFC East:
Dallas Cowboys (Jeff): Predicition – 13-3 After winning arguably the toughest division in Madden Monarchy the past two seasons, they look to build off of their success this season and hopefully reach the ever evasive Super Bowl. This past draft wasn’t up par with Jeff’s usual really good drafting. However Tavontae Phelps, first round pick, and Trey Messina, fourth round pick, are already showing out in training camp and both are expected to have a starting job by the time the season starts. With Dak and Zeke still working behind that insane offensive line, I don’t see many teams being able to top them. However, Dez has had a really bad offseason. The Cowboys have a lot of talent, but do they have enough to fill the giant void that Dez leaves? I see Jeff once again winning the East.
New York Giants (Myles): Prediction – 11-5 I can’t quite put my thumb on Myles in here, Year one he was off to a very hot start, then proceeded to try and “tank” out of the playoffs. Year two he started out “tanking”, but then ended up getting it together and snuck in as a strong wildcard. With that being said, when Myles turns it on, he can compete with nearly everyone in the league. The blockbuster deal of giving up Olivier Vernon, Landon Collins and first and third round picks for Marcus Mariota is an interesting one. He filled the need at QB to replace Eli, but also has traded two huge difference makers on defense. He’ll be rushing younger players into difficult situations, it’s a matter if they’ll be able to perform though. He’ll make the playoffs on the back of a top 5 passing attack.
Philadelphia Eagles (Donny): Prediction – 9-7 The lone standing Canadian left in the league. Donny has always been an above average player in the league, but has little “big game wins” to his name. Carson Wentz is still leading the offense, but has a new running back that can hopefully open up the passing game even more. They found their franchise left tackle in Zak Parmer, hopefully they can keep Carson upright. On the other side of the ball, that pass rush is deadly. They get after the quarterback like very few other teams. But if they are struggling getting pressure, that secondary is lacking and can give up big play after big play.
Washington Deadskins (Alex): Prediction – 4-12 The Redskins needed a big change over these past two seasons. Having the first overall pick this season, and then a top 3 the season before, they should be stocking up on some nice talent. Alex hopes to come in and make them a contender in the vaunted East, it may be difficult, but there is a chance. This team still has a far ways to go, but under the direction of a new coach this could be a quicker turn around than some would expect. Don’t sleep on the Redskins, they could sneak up on some opponents and surprise them.
NFC North Minnesota Vikings (Jose): Prediction -10-6 After missing last season’s playoffs, Jose hopes to come out this season and dominate the opposition. His main demise the past two seasons (and his whole MM career), poor oline play. Well he finally tried to fix that problem and went very oline heavy in this past draft. He has some top tier talent at skill positions with Stefon Diggs, Laquan Treadwell, and Matt Jones, now he just needs to continue feeding them the ball. On the other side of the ball, he arguably has top 5 user mlb skills in the league. He is very good at forcing bad throws for his user to jump on. Jose wins the mediocre NFC North.
Green Bay Packers (David): Prediction - 9-7 The Packers were a nice surprise this past season, we’ve never really had a successful user for the first team since Madden 15 when Dante had them. Trading Aaron Rodgers is a bit of a head scratcher though, Brett Hundley is a solid QB, but there will be a big drop in production there. Also Jordy Nelson was caught for performance enhancing drugs and is suspended for the entire season. There isn’t only bad news for this team though, they picked up Kelvin Benjamin and Kawann Short. Kelvin is expected to fill the void of Jordy Nelson, and Short will be a monster on the dline next to Mike Daniels. I expect this team to finish around the same record as they had last year, and just barely miss the playoffs.
Chicago Bears (Bgrams): Predicition – 8-8 The Bears had a positive season last year, all on the back of Dr. Doolittle himself. The man went on an absolute tear through league. Leading the league with yards by a long distance. Now that the Bears have Aaron Rodgers, yup you read that right, the offense should look way more balanced than it was last season. Look for Doolittle to open up the play action long passes to both Alshon and Kevin White. Man this offense makes me scared, the defense though? Not as impressive, and that will be the downfall for this team.
Detroit Lions (Matrix): Prediction - 7-9 Yes, I have the last season’s winner of this division to finish last. Nothing against Matrix, but all the other teams have way more talent at important positions. Ebron has been a monster for the Lions, but a tight end first passing game can only get you so far (looks at Bongy M16 Lions). The Lions have some nice pieces in place to make a solid run, but they aren’t as complete of a team as others. Their secondary is lacking outside of Darius Slay, dline is aging with Ansah nearing his 30’s and already at the age of regression. They have a chance for playoffs, but will need some young faces to step up this season.
NFC South Carolina Panthers (Danny): Prediction – 14-2 First off, can we kick this fucker from the league? I mean he’s won the last 4 Super Bowls dating back to last madden. FOUR. This will be the toughest schedule Danny has faced, in arguably the two deepest/strongest divisions in the league. Even after trading cornerstones of his team like Kelvin Benjamin and Kawann Short the season before, he still makes it work. He’s filled all his major needs through trades and the draft. Now someone needs to knock him off his mountain that no one else is close to reaching. The rest of the league’s lives matter.
New Orleans Saints (Royal King): Prediction – 8-8 Royal King is a very solid coach, but has taken over arguably the worst franchise. He’s made good moves to help his team, it’s just a matter of time before the talent starts to click. He’s struggled these past two seasons, but who takes the Saints and expect playoffs season one? If you take the saints, you are playing the long game. The Saints offense can be scary good at times, but it can also get very one dimensional as well. Derrick Henry leads the way, and is an absolute monster with the ball in his hands. I’m expecting a little bounce back season for the Saints.
Atlanta Falcons (Wade): Prediction – 6-10 The Atlanta Julio and Applewhites, have the best duo of wr’sI’ve ever seen in a madden league. Everyone knows how dominant Julio can be, now add a 6’6 monster who runs a 4.41 40 yard dash. Defenders have to focus their whole game plan on these two, but then they have to worry about Devonta Freeman. Now with that type of skill, you need someone to get them the ball, and that’s exactly what rookie QB Hunter Barry is expected to do. There’s honestly no point in talking about this defense, Desmond Trufant, Vic Beasley, and who else? Defense will be the down fall of this overpowered offensive team.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Zucchini/Zapdos/Josh): Prediction – 5-11 Tysaun Vanover took the league by storm last season. He led the league in receptions, and went to the pro bowl in his rookie season. Add in Mike Evans, and also Todd Gurley. This has the potential to be the best offense in the league. Here’s another team that is handicapped by its defense, but it’s not like they don’t have the talent there. Vernon Hargreaves is turning into a lockdown corner, really good linebackers in the middle. Only really lacking pass rush, which can be a huge difference maker. There have been rumors of switching to a 3-4 hoping to generate more pass rush, but it’s hard to see with the personnel they have. FUCK YOU JOSH
NFC West: Arizona Cardinals (Nano): Predicition – 10-6 Nano has had some up and downs with the Cardinals, one of the best teams the first season, to one of the worst last year. Carson Palmer retiring hurt them big time, and that’s now followed up with Larry Fitzgerald retiring this offseason. Have no fear though, Scott June is finally starting to figure out NFL defenses and looks to wipe the “bust” tag off his name. David Johnson is doing things only he can do. The Cardinals have a plethora of wide receivers to get the ball to. On the other side of the ball, the front seven can be dominant, especially with the addition of Mick Moll Rick Roll. The secondary can be sketchy at times outside of Tyrann Mathieu. I’m expecting a bounce back season for the Cards.
Los Angeles Rams (Willie): Prediction – 7-9 Willie has torn this team apart. Trading away every single viable player they have. Aaron Donald, Todd Gurley, Jared Goff, Tavon Austin, and Alec Ogletree. And he paid for it last season, he had to start Kaep for crying out loud. He found his franchise QB in “White Vick” and his potential 4 franchise running backs? Willie is a good coach, but his skill as a GM seems to be lacking and is hurting his team.
San Francisco 49ers (GM Whitey): Prediction – 5-11 The 49ers are one of the worst madden teams, so I don’t blame Whitey. He has exceeded expectations with them however, making the playoffs last season, albeit a wildcard blowout to the Giants. The 49ers plainly put just don’t have the talent to compete with some of the other teams in the league. Looking at the talent on this team, Whitey has done a really nice job with this team. There is no top tier talent, and very few above average tier talent at all.
Seattle Seahawks (Derek): Prediction - 3-13 Everyone knows the Seahawks are a talented team, but they also are missing some key pieces. Most notably the oline and playmakers. It’s kind of a shame seeing such talent being wasted away. The coach has rarely made it to half the games and when he has been there, he’s been blatantly drunk. Will the Seahawks be looking for a new coach soon? Who will know. They have been able to restock the talent throughout the drafts. But we’ve yet to see the huge talent here actually click. Only time will tell what will happen with this team.
AFC East
New England Patriots (Detroit City): Prediction - 6-10 While the Patriots have a ton of talent on both sides of the ball, I think the main concern here, after decades of excellence, is the quarterback position. Sam Bradford does not inspire confidence in even the most die hard of Patriots fans, especially after tossing up a 5:15 TD:INT ratio last season. Playmakers like Jarvis Landry, Rob Gronkowski and Jamie Collins can will this team to a handful of wins, but don't expect much more just yet.
Miami Dolphins (Volhar): Prediction - 11-5 Our favorite memelord has returned, and with his resurfacing the Dolphins have gotten a little bit of a makeover. Rookies Cassius Roye and Tomas Baadknews are going to have to be integral pieces of this team's gameplan week to week if they want to win games, and look for freshly inked QB Matthew Stafford to connect deep with Baadknews more than a few times this season, as the Phins run the table on the AFC East.
Buffalo Bills (James): Prediction - 5-11 A regressed Tyrod Taylor does NOT inspire confidence in our 2017 season Dolphins user, yet to win a game in his Madden Monarchy career. The Team Joker Built is stacked on both sides of the ball, and rookie newcomer MLB Kenny Mooney is an athletic FREAK (I can not stress this enough) with 88 SPD and 90 ACC. Regardless of whether or not Bills is a good defensive user, this can't be too hard to utilize. One of the more interesting teams in the league in my opinion.
New York Jets (Lance): Prediction - 9-7 Rookie Quarterback Ryan Koutouvides has been dealt a god awful hand at Wide Receiver, a group held together with dental floss and silly string. Seriously, go look at it. Otherwise, this team is pretty sound all around, and Lance is perennially a decent to good user. Recently acquired HB Jeremy Hill should do big things with a full season as the bellcow, and sophomore star Shaunn Leary is one of the best pass rushers in the league. Lance will give Volhar some tough games, but ultimately fall short.
AFC North
Baltimore Ravens (Kyle): Prediction - 15-1 The defending AFC champion is going to come out hungry after falling short in the Super Bowl last season. Waller, Tomzack and Perriman will continue to make big plays, and this defense is young and only getting better.
Pittsburgh Steelers (Fin): Prediction - 6-10 Last time we were here, I called another year 1 super bowl berth for fin, citing how stacked this team was. Well, the team got better. And still haven't made the playoffs. This is an atrocity of epic proportions, and I don't see an end in sight after Antonio Brown hauled in a huge payday from the Colts. The salary cap hell has been dodged, but Fin needs to carve out an identity with the talent this team boasts offensively to compete in this division.
Cleveland Browns (Ty): Prediction - 8-8 If you asked me late last year, I'm penciling in Ty for a wild card spot in the AFC. But after watching an underwhelming offseason where Ross Manieri was the only notable addition to this depth-starved Browns squad, I think it'll take another season.
Cincinnati Bengals (Pena): Prediction - 12-4 An interesting team. Pena's incredibly impressive season 1 was followed up by a total dud last year. Controversial opinion here BUT I think he belongs somewhere in the middle, a smidge closer to 14-2. I must say, I'm very impressed with GM Pena's ability to infuse young, steprightintalent (it's a word now.) HB Lorell Shivers (92 spd, 94 ACC) should bring some big play ability to this team. We all know the regressing WR tandem of AJ Green and Demaryius Thomas have sapped it from them. The defensive side of the ball is in much better shape than from the beginning of the league as well. CB William Jackson III looks like the league's next shut down corner, and headlines a defense that will lead this team to a deepish playoff run.
AFC South
Jacksonville Jaguars (Pesticide Ares 2.0): Prediction - 13-3 A series of controversial calls toyed with Pest's emotions like a yo-yo, and was basically a coin flip away from representing the AFC in two straight Super Bowls. I'd be shocked if another playoff run wasn't in Pest's future, as it is par for the course. As for the team itself, Blake Bortles has become one of MM's better QB's, Jalen Ramsey is THE best corner, and Frank White does his thing running the ball. Rinse and Repeat for the umpteenth Chris we have in the league.
Tennessee Titans (Piss Town): prediction - 9-7. You know, I actually wrote these a couple of days ago, right when the season started. But I gotta go back and edit this one. As we all know, the Titans dealt Marcus Mariota away to the Giants, in what was likely a panic move birthed from the dumbest contract in MM history. (7 Years, 84 Million to a USER LINEBACKER). This hurts the Tits (thanks, Magic!). Besides physical stats, Landon Collins is no upgrade from Da'Norris Searcy, and while Olivier Vernon is a force, he can not make up the impact Mariota had. I hope I'm proved wrong(do I?) , but I don't see a way this team doesn't take a sizable step. back.
Houston Texans (Killa): Prediction- 5-11: A team led by Cardale Jones is where this should start and end. A 67 Overall, Slow Development QB negates whatever DeAndre Hopkins, JJ Watt and Whitney Mercilus can accomplish.
Indianapolis Colts (WoodSon): Prediction - 8-8: Can't wait to see the deceased corpse of Antonio Brown make 25 million in 2021. In all seriousness, solid team all around, but this division is far from a cake walk. Dixon Jeffries is a naughty user, and DEnd Julius Hoard is on a short list for best drafted player so far.
AFC West- I'll keep this short, much like the season 1 preview.
Oakland Raiders (Tone E): Prediction - 10-6: Weapons. Tony's average WR has a speed rating of 93. With this kind of spread offense combined with what appears to be a significant improvement from Coach Pastavista, and this team takes home the divisional crown again.
San Diego Chargers (Woat): Prediction - 7-9: We all love Woat. But I don't love the offensive playmakers here. A Superstar development Hunter Henry is nice. But this team is severely lacking at wideout, and TJ Yeldon, while nice, isn't the type of back that can compensate there.
Kansas City Chiefs (Shrimp): Prediction - 5-11: Largely untouched, the Chiefs roster has become underwhelming compared to the rest of the division. An aging Justin Houston headlines this squad, a team that sorely needs an offensive overhaul. Points will be tough to come by.
Denver Broncos (Bongy): Prediction - 8-8: The Broncos have the talent to win this division and make the playoffs , it all lies in the hands of Coach Bong. Jalston Medlock is out to prove he isn't a bust, Russell Milstead becomes better with each day, and so does Paxton lynch.
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